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  Parallels to North Korea

  by ForbiddenFruit in

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  no, i'm not just talking about the totalitarian regime that is the organisation.

  i'm talking about how the jw's will fall, and how it links to north korea.

  basically, last night i was watching a documentary on north korea.

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  No, I'm not just talking about the totalitarian regime that is the Organisation. I'm talking about how the JW's will fall, and how it links to North Korea.

  Basically, last night I was watching a documentary on North Korea. A friend of mine has been to North Korea, and can confirm this to be true. North Koreans are increasingly able to get their hands on technology from the South and from China. Be it DVD's of TV shows, or mobile phones (you can in spots pickup phone signals from S. Korea/China), information from the outside world is flooding into North Korea. North Koreans are becoming conscious of how the outside world lives, especially through TV shows and films. The North Korean government is doing everything possible to prevent this flood of information, even imposing death sentences for those found to be in possession of 'propaganda', but the change is inevitable. North Korea keeps it's citizens in line by creating this bubble that North Korea is the world's most powerful nation, and they can maintain this image by blocking off the outside world. However, with this flood of information, eventually North Koreans will realise they've been lied to, that the North Korean government isn't this all powerful entity and that they can do better.
  
  Aliken this to the Jdubs. In this world of technology, it's impossible for them to block out all forms of information. Afterall, I am 20, and by the age of 13-14 I had enough information (without even searching for it), to know that something was amiss with the JW's, especially when it came to things like science and politics (Evolution/The UN). We live in a world where technology and information is everywhere, I mean, everything. The JW's keep people in line by making out they, like Kim Jong-Un's government, are all powerful. With the flood of technology, it'll be increasingly easy for, especially young JW's, to get enough information to call out the BS.

  Basically, just some thoughts I had. The JW's will fall the same way NK and other totalitarian regimes will...through the spread of technology.
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  What do JW's make of Early Christians?

  by ForbiddenFruit in

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  Well, I always used to get into debates with them about how essentially the Modern Bible was a Catholic Church invention, and they'd always say, 'Maybe Jehovah used the Catholic Church to deliver the truth', which makes sense on so few levels I can't be bothered to explain.
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  What do JW's make of Early Christians?

  by ForbiddenFruit in

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  Can't edit my post, it posted prematurely. Anyway, I'll follow up, I've been doing a lot of research about Early Christianity. I was curious what the JW's made of the early followers of Jesus Christ and Saints etc. Do they think they have a 'shot' at paradise because they didn't know better? Or do they view them as evil as they do the rest of Christianity?
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  What do JW's make of Early Christians?

  by ForbiddenFruit in

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  3 day convention.

  by ForbiddenFruit in

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  family is off to the 3 day convention from tomorrow.

  i was wondering if anyone could give me a little update about what is said, and what publications are released?.

  it's just i'm bound to be bombarded with it by 'worried' family who want me to go back before the end and i wanted to be prepared for what to expect.. much apreciated.

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  Family is off to the 3 day convention from tomorrow. I was wondering if anyone could give me a little update about what is said, and what publications are released?
  
  It's just I'm bound to be bombarded with it by 'worried' family who want me to go back before the end and I wanted to be prepared for what to expect.

  Much apreciated.
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  What are the JW's up to now days?

  by ForbiddenFruit in

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  so i left around 4 years ago, my family have pretty much left me alone after the first year of harassment, but in the last 6 months i've been hearing about 'the end' a lot again.

  so i'm basically wondering if anything has happened?

  if anything specific has gone on in the last 6 months (or few years since i've left) to make my family get all zealous about me going back to the 'truth' again?

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  So I left around 4 years ago, my family have pretty much left me alone after the first year of harassment, but in the last 6 months I've been hearing about 'the end' a lot again. So I'm basically wondering if anything has happened? If anything specific has gone on in the last 6 months (or few years since I've left) to make my family get all zealous about me going back to the 'truth' again? Basically want to know what's been going down with the JW's since I've left.
  
  Thanks.

  P.S. Since leaving 'The truth' I've become involved in show business, an enjoyer of alcohol beverage, a person who endugles in sex, and a person who is interested in philosophy. The JW's lied. There is an enjoyable world out there.
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  Hitler and the JW's...

  by ForbiddenFruit in

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  i'm sure it's been asked before, but i'll ask it again.

  after watching a ww2 movie, my dad came out with a random line..."what's special is that a small group of people known as the jehovah's witnesses stood up to him.

  now, my dad is a strong jw and i have left, so this was a blatant taunt.

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  I'm sure it's been asked before, but I'll ask it again. After watching a WW2 movie, my Dad came out with a random line..."What's special is that a small group of people known as the Jehovah's Witnesses stood up to him. Now, my Dad is a strong JW and I have left, so this was a blatant taunt. I was half tempted to reply, "What do you mean, get slaughtered in concentration camps?" but I thought against it :p.

  Anyway, how do you guys respond to this sort of, "The Jehovah's Witnesses were the ONLY religion Hitler completely went against. That means we are special" etc.

  Thanks.
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  If you had the power, would you erase humans from existence?

  by sabastious in

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  if you could, would you make it so humans never existed?

  because of all the pain and suffering humans have endured for millenia and, in turn, erasing all the glee and bliss experienced as well.. -sab.

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  Yes, I would, without a thought.

  We're extremely selfish and driven by greed. The sooner we die out the better.
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  Mental Block...

  by ForbiddenFruit in

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  hi, i am a male in my late teens... now, as we all know, when you are a jw, even looking at the opposite sex is a deadly sin.

  the most a boy can do to a girl without brother 90 year old virgin giving you a lecture, is awkward stares from across the room.

  even a mere "hello" is enough to raise suspicions.. anyway, as time goes on, this thought pattern carries itself over, to even after you've left the organisation.. whenever you like a girl, you are scared to make any sort of approach, even a friendly one, in case someone (she) thinks you are a sexual pervert.

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  It's nothing SEVERE, and I'm pretty good at correct my own flawed mental patterns, it's just a pain until I get over it. Not a fan of therapy :D (I've tried it several times for anxiety/depressive issues).
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  Some things that we APOSTATES keep getting wrong. We need some FRESH IDEAS!

  by nicolaou in

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  just my opinions of course;.

  money:.

  a common attitude among ex-jw's is that the watchtower will face collapse only when the money dries up - i disagree.

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  The only people worth trying to help are the youth who haven't been fully brainwashed yet, and the older ones who never fully bought it in the first place.

  As hard it is to accept, some will never change no matter what.