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thankyou for the nice washcloth!!
~cassandra & utopian raindrops~
Windchaser,
We wanted you to know we love the wash cloth!! Except we use it like a doily. I have a nice nick nack placed ontop of it!
I hope you like the picture Cassandra drew for you and we wil be mailing you a pencil colored copy for you to hang on your wall!
It was so wonderful of you to knit this for us. Realy does remind me of something my grandmother would have made.
{{{{{hugz}}}}} sugar! Gotta luvz ya,
Utopian_Raindrops
i have a fantastic new mp3 audio on my site!
it's by cookie claffey, an ex-witness.
she tells her personal story of bondage to the watchtower and how she almost let her daughter die for the society.
ty for pointing out Cookie's story. Listening now.
what do you think about the future of the united nations?
it seems that the watchtower org.
again has failed to be fulfilled a prophecy about the un.
Gumby you said, That is a lovely thought this man has......god is going to kill millions of people who are still in Organized religion.......even though they are sincere good people........and he is going to save the elect few who were smart enough to leave the churches
I probably should have elaborated more and although I do not know where this man got his teachings. He did not believe anyone would die at Armageddon.
He said those save would inherit the Kingdomsince you pointed out Revelation he is probably referring to the 144,000 ruling as Kings. Although he did not seem to have an exact number of how many saved. They were to be and are now The Foundation Of The Body Of Christs Church.
I dont know all his beliefs but the rest of the people would be in a learning state. I cant say what he believed after that as all I was doing was trying to get him to be interested in a tract I was offering.
His beliefs were more along the lines that God is a teacher not a destroyer.
Maybe I will meet him again. It sounds interesting to me.
Thankz for the reply.
Ciao 4 now,
U_R
our hall has 3 sections of seating, we always sat in the left section all the way in the back if possible heh.
it's funny: it seemed like all the foreign people, immigrants, etc, sat on the right side, all the "goody goods" sat in the middle, and all of the um "shady" people... all the people i would think would become defectors sat on the left.
hehe.
My children and I always sat in back.
Not to avoid anyone or because we were rebels.
It is because when people commented I liked to see them as much as I possibly could.
To see their expressions and body language,etc.
Also, if you sat in back you could tell if someone was in need.
For instance if a sister or bro walked out holding their head. They may have a headache. Then we would follow them and offer Tylenol or Ibuprofen, etc.
Once on Sunday a sister was running out crying and my children and I were able to intercept her. Turned out she needed real help. She was a single mom/grandma taking care of her daughters children.
I was able to get her some gas money and make an appointment with the elders for her.
The gas money helped, as she was not sure how she was getting home. So I felt Jehovah wanted us to see her in distress but The Appointment with The Elders!
That was a flop! They were no help what so ever! Told her to return her grandchildren to her worldly daughter!!! Told her if she didnt then it was her fault she was poor and could barley feed herself and them!!!
Her daughter was/is a crack head!!! Those kids would be abused if returned to a mother who does not want them!!
Needless to say the elders were no help but I am blessed as to still be friends with this brave older woman.
I got off subject.sitting in back was what we did to connect with those in the cong. If we sat in front we would never have known what any of the friends were like. We would have eaten up spiritual food and not noticed if anyone other then us enjoyed the meal much less if they were full.
Thats us.
Gotta luvz you all,
U_R
Edited by - Utopian_raindrops on 15 February 2003 6:35:40
what do you think about the future of the united nations?
it seems that the watchtower org.
again has failed to be fulfilled a prophecy about the un.
Welcome Luthien39!!
Can you believe I keep waiting for that prediction to be fulfilled?
I have not been out long and have old habits and expectations.
Once while I was preaching (back when I was in good standing) a man told me Gods people were all those who came out of the ORGANIZED RELIGIONS.
He gave my WT predictions such as the one you mentioned and applied them to Christians who were free and out of Organized Religions.
These Christians who were living without man made rules would be the envy of all and would be last attacked by The UN and The Governments that followed them.
I really wish I knew the scriptures he used to get his conclusions.
Because right about now he makes sense.
This man said Organizations, Idols, etc stood in the way of God, gods Son, and man.
He said those who could connect with the Creator and His Son without any go betweens would be the foundation of The Body Of Christs Church.
Now where to find what he taught was in the bible I would not know as I had tract in hand ready to place!
Hmmmmmm.
Anyone know about these teachings let me know!
Once again Welcome to the board!!!
Gotta Luvz Ya Peoplez,
Utopian_Raindrops
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a person very close to me was very seriously wronged by a jw couple - and when i saw the jw couple about the matter (they didn't know i knew they were jws), all they could say was, "but we're jehovah's witnesses".. they had such a stupid blank look on their face, as if to say, "how could it be us?
there must be some mistake", like it must be someone else's fault.. does the gb / fds attitude to fessing up (not) extend and teach the flock to do the same?
ROLF!!!! "but we're jehovah's witnesses".
I cannot believe them! Or maybe I can!
They really are brainwashed by all the Assembly and Convention talks!
Lets turn to song # 113 We Are Jehovahs Witnesses.
Just because they practice a religion does not make them infallible!!
I am assuming your not sharing their unjust act with us?
Still I know what you mean about that blank look of what did I do? We are Jehovah's People we can do no wrong.
A Paduan......I so hate to say this but if I had not been a JW my children and I would have a home of our own today.
We lost our home because we were JWs and thats all I will say. No more.
Just as you wont tell their un- neighborly deed.
It is correct for you not to say.
Just as I wont tell all.
I have biblical reasons and from your threads I know you have good reasons too.
I hope they make peace with your friend their neighbor before going to worship our Creator again.
Let us know if they take responsibility A Paduan.
Christian Love,
Utopian_Raindrops
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when speaking to a jw the other day, i didn't really have a good explanation of ecclesiastes 9:5, where it says that the dead are conscious of nothing at all.. what is everybody's take on it?
Anti-absolutism,
You live up to your name!
So ya knowI LOVE IT!!!!
Gotta luvz ya, U_R
this is, i believe, a very important scripture for jehovah's witnesses to read -- because it proves that in the mosaic law, there was a one-witness policy for rape!.
i want to give a huge thank you to "nanoprobe" for pointing this out on another thread!
i think everyone should ask the society about this scripture!.
**Bump**
currently the co is visiting the congo (congregation).
sadly i was not paying much attention to his talk and by the time he got to something interesting i wished i was listening.. he was babbling on about identifying a "pattern" and how the jw's have a pattern of identifying the truths (trininty, hell, etc).
it got interesting when he bgean to say dont worry about the mistakes made, we have a pattern of truth and these mistakes should be ignored (my paraphrase).
After Big Texs very true POWERFUL statement what can one say.
The 2 witness rule in the case of rape.child or adult is not Biblical. It is away of avoiding lawsuits and blame placed On Them The Governing Body.
In reality by requiring a 2 Witness Rule and saying it is Biblical They Are BLAMING Jehovah and Christ Jesus.
Go to these threads and see
In this one Undissed says.....
I think everyone should ask the Society about this Scripture!
Deuteronomy 22:25: If an engaged woman is raped out in the country, only the man will be put to death.
Deuteronomy 22:26: Do not punish the woman at all; she has done nothing wrong, and certainly nothing deserving death. This crime is like murder,
Deuteronomy 22:27: because the woman was ALONE out in the country when the man attacked her. She screamed, but there was NO ONE to help her.
http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.aspx?id=35547&site=3
this other thread is Scullys and speaks about Jehovah's Witnesses and the Concept of Conscientious Objection
- by Scully http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.aspx?id=46202&site=3
Read and then everyone should write letters daily to the WT Society so that the only mail they read each day is about thier Use Of God's Name To Promote The Abuse Of Little Child!
this is an idea I got from figureheaduk's thread
http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.aspx?id=46160&site=3
I am going out right now but, anyone who wants to help me make up easily printable flyers people can just mail in daily by pressing print on thier comp and then mailing off in the snail mail.
E-Mail me.
Gotta luv you people,
Utopian_Raindrops
sexual abuse & the jehovah's witness faith.
2/14/2003 12:37:26 pm .
another religious organization is under attack, facing lawsuits for silencing victims, and placing children at risk.. this time it is not priests making headlines, but members of the jehovah witness faith.
Thank-you for this Grits.
I am saving everything possible on the sex abuse scandals.
I know they are all true from my own experience.
I dont know how children and women can take it anymore inside that organization and I say that with a heavy heart.
I really loved that Religion and believed it Jehovahs Organization.
What I know now is Our Grand Creator will put and end too the harmful practices of all those who abuse and allow abuse in his Name.
Gotta luvz ya,
Utopian_Raindrops
