It's all done with smoke and mirrors.
*Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain*
lisa
if you try to connect all the witness dots, what do you get?
any jw would have to admit that if the "faithful slave" came to a new understanding on anything, it would just be blindly accepted as "the light is getting brighter".
questioning is not allowed, obviously, unless one doesn't fear being ostracized!
It's all done with smoke and mirrors.
*Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain*
lisa
(see my original thread - "i received the knock on the door.
") the 2 ladies came back to the door today, to give me the gift of a basket of fruit!
they said they didn't want to leave a bad taste, and we can still love our neighbors!
Well that was kinda sweet. I remember when my mom an active JW was in the hospital. I asked how many of the brothers and sisters had been there to visit. She said some pioneers had a bible study in the hospital and several went to see the BS and stopped by to my mom's room, popped in to say hi. I said..how come they didn't stay longer and how come everyone didn't come. She said, JW's are very busy people.
I told her about how when my husband's mother was in the hospital, her church people never let her spend a moment alone. There was always the max number of people in the hospital room and others waiting in the lobby for their turn to visit. And they were very busy people, but made the time to visit because they were concerned and cared.
lisa
does anyone remember the thread about the guy who used his i-phone to transcribe the talks and schedule from the summer assembly?
i really need a little help finding it....
kzjw.
I spent a while reading Zhaylin's blog this morning.
She's a little distressing. I felt like we had much in common...or I could understand where she was coming from in several blog writings.
I hope someone pulls her out before it's to late.
lisa
man charged with battery for farting near coppolice say suspect passed 'very odorous' gas during breathalyzer testupdated 7:05 p.m.
pt,wed., sept. 24, 2008south charleston, w.va. - a man has been charged with battery on a police officer for allegedly passing gas and fanning it toward a patrolman.. jose a. cruz, 34, of clarksburg, w. va., was pulled over early tuesday for driving without headlights, police said.
according to the criminal complaint, cruz smelled of alcohol, had slurred speech and failed three field sobriety tests before he was handcuffed and taken to a police station for a breathalyzer test.. as patrolman t.e.
A man has been charged with battery on a police officer for allegedly passing gas and fanning it toward a patrolman.
Fanning it...he fanned it? That's just gross.
Not a chargeable offense..but gross.
I don't know why I laughed.
lisa
too funny!
the olympic track and field medal winner was dead last in the very first running challenge.
i enjoy watching the social/psychological games play out on this show.
Love the show. I wondered the same thing about fire..,.and a lot of other general survival tips. It's like some don't have a clue where to even start. Have they never even been camping? What were they thinking when some got dressed for the trip? a dress and heels? oh, for crying out loud
lisa
here are a few things that were said that seemed kind of dubious to me.
(i had a meeting with 2 women that came to the door - full story in the thread "i received the knock...").
they baptize in the name of the father, son and holy spirit.
Oh AuntBee, yes call and ask for a copy and hold on to it.
I once asked a question about a ariticle that refered to a medical article. I looked the medical article up and printed it off and asked the sister how they came up with the information in the Awake magazine, because they didn't agree. She took both the Awake Magazine back and took my printed off about the medical information. After that, I asked about it a few times... She always said she hadn't had time to look over it.
lisa
For those that don't like to clink on the links:
Two twisted Jehovah's Witnesses have been arrested as suspected serial killers, accused of murdering 13 people during a nine-month killing spree in Russia.
Claiming to be on a mission from God, Vladimir Gurianov, 44, and Elvira Egorycheva 46, hacked, shot and bludgeoned their victims in a case that left even hardened Russian detectives shocked.
The pair were finally spotted in a supermarket in a suburb of the city and arrested. By then they were on nationwide search lists and their photographs had been widely circulated in the region.
When they were searched Egorycheva had a revolver, two axes, an electric-shock device and a rope in her belongings.
Another gun and a knife were found in Gurianov's jacket.
Gurianov - who locals said had 'mad eyes' - and Egorycheva first met at a Jehovah's Witnesses sect meeting 16 years ago.
When they were reunited late last year, Egorycheva allegedly told him she had a vision and they must travel to the Volga region to carry out God's wishes.
She said: "God wants us to go to Nizhniy Novgorod and cleanse the world of sinners".
A neighbour said: "They were very odd. He called her "mother" or "Princess Elena". She called him "my son, Prince Mikhail".
"Gurianov used to say they had a certain mission. No-one took them very seriously but then the killings began."
The first victim was a fortune teller Ludmila Kostina, 51, with whom they made an appointment after seeing her advert in a local papers.
A day after the first murder they went to another fortune-teller, Nina Mashtakova, 66, who they killed before stealing valuables.
One victim was killed around January 10, when Gurianov answered an advert advertising Pekingese puppies.
A 17-year-old boy, returning home, found Gurianov killing his mother, who only managed to scream: "Run, boy!"
Gurianov later boasted to detectives about one particularly brutal slaying.
He said: "I shot at the head of this woman, but she was still alive. I shot her a second time and she fell down, but just as I was digging a grave for her I realised she was still alive and just watching me. So you'll understand I had to stab her."
Also in January this year, Gurianov, a convicted rapist, and Egorycheva met a 17 year-old girl by the garage complex in the city's outskirts.
Police believe the couple stopped the girl, and Egorycheva told her: "Stop, sinner! I, Princess Elena, and my son Prince Mikhail, have been sent by God to punish you!"
Gurianov then allegedly raped the girl, killed her with a hammer and buried her next to the garage complex.
He later told investigators: "Mother explained to me that every woman killed or raped by me would become my wives in the afterlife."
They are also suspected of killing 18 year-old student Masha Maslennikova, missing since May, whose body has not been found, as well as Ludmila Kotelnikova, 45, and Elena Lomteva, 37, whose corpses were found near their holiday homes.
One detective said: "Apparently, they didn't care who became their next victim, whether it was a woman, a young girl or a child. Their only criterion was to carry out the killing in remote parts of the city where no one could help the victims."
Later police asked the pair why they killed innocent people.
Gurianov, clearly enjoying recounting his deeds, replied: "God told us to go and take the money. He said: 'Go there and take as much as you need.' So we did".
One shocked detective said: "Our hearts are bleeding.
"They seem to enjoy talking about the things they have done. They feel safe as well. What is prison to them? Even if they are sentenced to life, they'll live until old age.If ever there was a case for capital punishment, this is it."
recently, in the news were reports of 90 plus year old men being arrested for soliciting prostitutes.
i believe the charges were dropped.
and the vast majority of people polled thought that police should worry less about prostitutes and johns and more about city government waste.. your thoughts?.
2 ps: I have never been to a prostitute, but are strippers prostitutes?
No..strippers are entertainers.
lisa
so i have posted on here about my conversations with my family.
i toned it down a little when they got really upset, so many on this board told me to be careful.
but yesterday my sister called me.
Yes, go see the psychiatrist. Go by yourself the first time and then have your sister go the next time. I remember years ago seeing a psychiatrist, he told me I reminded him of a rape victim. I said, "I've never been raped." He said, "Yes, you were spiritually raped." I don't know if that is true or not, but it always stayed with me.
Also. As far as your mom and sis go. I would not let the others keep me away. Ha, let them try and stop you.
lisa
recently, in the news were reports of 90 plus year old men being arrested for soliciting prostitutes.
i believe the charges were dropped.
and the vast majority of people polled thought that police should worry less about prostitutes and johns and more about city government waste.. your thoughts?.
If I don't see any victims, then I have a hard time making it a crime?
lisa