I still hold that it is strange for them to want their "worldly" family members to die before Armageddon so as to have a chance to live in the paradise earth. I remember being a kid and PRAYING and HOPING that my grandma would die before the end, because I loved her so much. Sick...sick.
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Crazy JW quote from a social networking site
by JerkhovahsWitless inone jw posted a comment about how they started laughing as their plane suffered some turbulence.
the jw asked if that was a strange reaction while all of the other passengers gasped.. another jw replied to the comment with this:.
"its not weird.
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brotherdan
Probably the best definition I've ever heard Pirata!
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brotherdan
I know how to get TRUE light out of a WT. You only need 2 ingredients.
1. A Watchtower magazine
2. A match
What does that equal? Watchtower + Match = Light
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Last Night's Intervention
by brotherdan ini'm afraid of starting a new post because i've stepped on a few feet here with my last post... but i still love you guys.. last night i went home to find my wife and her friend on the couch with the bible, ready to show me how i'm wrong and exercising "apostate thinking".
my wife said, "i am unable to fight you with the bible because you know more than me about it.
but k** knows more and will be able to show you how you are wrong.. so my wife went into the other room so as not to be stumbled by my discussion.
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I don't hate JWs either. I hate the mindset and the blindness. But they are victims just as much as someone that has been raped is a victim.
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New Study: "Fundamentalist" More Likely to Engage In/Approve Of Domestic Violence
by Justitia Themis inactual study pdf:.
http://courses.ttu.edu/jkoch/research/koch%20ramirez%20religion%20and%20partner%20violence%20final%20feb%2009.pdf.
news report:.
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brotherdan
This really isn't anything new. This has been an argument of evolutionists for years. I agree that some abusive personality types could be attracted to fundamentalism because of it's tendency to be dogmatic in it's views.
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Last Night's Intervention
by brotherdan ini'm afraid of starting a new post because i've stepped on a few feet here with my last post... but i still love you guys.. last night i went home to find my wife and her friend on the couch with the bible, ready to show me how i'm wrong and exercising "apostate thinking".
my wife said, "i am unable to fight you with the bible because you know more than me about it.
but k** knows more and will be able to show you how you are wrong.. so my wife went into the other room so as not to be stumbled by my discussion.
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I keep telling myself to stop arguing with him, but then he says something so off the wall stupid that I can't keep my own stupid mouth shut. I have a real problem with that.
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The False Prophet Nathan?
by brotherdan inmy mom is addicted to the wts.
i've recently brought up the many false prophecies and she calls almost every week to show me new things that the society has said about false prophets and how they are not one.. the latest was the account where king david wanted to build god a temple.
he told nathan the prophet about his idea and nathan basically said, well god is with you, you should do it.
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Superpunk, we can prove that they are guilty of the 2nd example of false prophecy when they change the policy. If they say that God is using the Watchtower to teach and it teaches something that is later changed, then that is something that God did not teach.
So we CAN verify that they Watchtower has done this.
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The False Prophet Nathan?
by brotherdan inmy mom is addicted to the wts.
i've recently brought up the many false prophecies and she calls almost every week to show me new things that the society has said about false prophets and how they are not one.. the latest was the account where king david wanted to build god a temple.
he told nathan the prophet about his idea and nathan basically said, well god is with you, you should do it.
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So actually we can say that the WT was guilty of false prophecy in 2 ways.
1. They predicted future events that didn't come true (all be it from their twisting of the scriptures)
2. They spoke in God's name words that God did not say.
You know, Debator, if they were guilty of false prophecy and afterwards wrote a statement like, "We have published some statements in earlier issues of the Watchtower that indicated that events would happen in the future, and those events did not occur. We would like to issue an apology to anyone that this may have affected in a negative way. These were not the words of Jehovah, and thus we apologize for our personal error." If they said something like this, I'd have the utmost respect for them. But instead they minimize. They downplay. They do EXACTLY what you are doing in this post. They shift the blame on others by saying that THEY were the ones that had improper expectations.
And speaking of shifting the blame...this is how they are guilty of something else. They blame the anointed prophets of Jehovah and accuse them of doing the same false prophecying that they do. These prophets spoke by means of Holy Spirit. So by calling them "false prophets" they are in fact blaspheming against the Holy Spirit, which is an unforgivable sin.
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The False Prophet Nathan?
by brotherdan inmy mom is addicted to the wts.
i've recently brought up the many false prophecies and she calls almost every week to show me new things that the society has said about false prophets and how they are not one.. the latest was the account where king david wanted to build god a temple.
he told nathan the prophet about his idea and nathan basically said, well god is with you, you should do it.
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superpunk, yeah I agree with you. A prophet doesn't have to make predictions. That's why I was saying that Mariam was a prophetess in that she gave the people the words of God. If she gave them something that God did not say, that would make her a false prophet just as much as if she had predicted a future event that did not happen. Both scenarios would classify her as a false prophet.
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The False Prophet Nathan?
by brotherdan inmy mom is addicted to the wts.
i've recently brought up the many false prophecies and she calls almost every week to show me new things that the society has said about false prophets and how they are not one.. the latest was the account where king david wanted to build god a temple.
he told nathan the prophet about his idea and nathan basically said, well god is with you, you should do it.
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You still do not confront the fact, Debator, that these have not been merely mistakes. They have been ENFORCED teachings that they have claimed to have come from God. If I said, "based on the Bible it is the Creators promise that 2014 will not pass away before the end of this system of things", I would expect to be called a false prophet.
You also do not confront the many statements made on who the WT views as false prophets. They have called other men false prophets for merely predicting dates. These men did not say "Thus says Jehovah" either.
So while you say that we are on the losing side of this issue, you are grasping for straws.
I'd also like to make a comment on people in the Bible that were called prophets, but as you say, did not prophecy. I believe they did. A prophet MUST prophecy or he is not a prophet. Mariam was a prophetess. I believed that she prophesied. She brought the people the words of God. Maybe much of it was not recorded in the Bible, but if she was called a prophet, she MUST, by definition, prophecy.