if you were on a hiring panel for a new chair of the federal reserve board, would either a neatly trimmed beard or a bow tie even register on your dress and grooming "radar"?.
i'm talking ben bernanke, (current chairman of the fed).
richard abrahamson, secretary/treasurer of the wtb&ts of pennsylvania since 2000. i looked all over and couldn't find a picture of him, but he's famous for his bow ties.
I think both should be fine! But I see where you're going. Bow ties are more distracting. The JWs really need to get over their fear of the hippies and their beards. Beards and goatees are worn by respectable men all over the world.
If they really want to keep an outlaw on facial hair how 'bout just outlawing facial hair on women?
yep, i'm the worldly who needs explanations about simple things.
i will appreciate it if someone told me what exactly a special pioneer does, and what a person gets out of being one, in terms of watchtower politics.. thanks..
There are special olympics and there are special pioneers.
yep, i'm the worldly who needs explanations about simple things.
i will appreciate it if someone told me what exactly a special pioneer does, and what a person gets out of being one, in terms of watchtower politics.. thanks..
I didn't make fun. They are special nice people.
yep, i'm the worldly who needs explanations about simple things.
i will appreciate it if someone told me what exactly a special pioneer does, and what a person gets out of being one, in terms of watchtower politics.. thanks..
Sorry...but I have to do it...
Special Pioneer Service Group
gah, i'm having such a hard time understanding thiss!
dx okay, this is about to get a little ugly since i kinda have a lot to ask.
heregoes... -some apostates were trying to, i guess, upset me by bringing up several dates the watchtower has made "false predictions" in such as the 1800s and 1900s.
Here is a comprehensive list of all the false prophecies of the Watchtower since it's inception:
so we've seen flipper's thread discussing the jan 15th wt.
well in the article following the one discussed in that thread, you have discussion about turning in your friends.
apparently now they aren't content to turn in for "gross sin".
I just can't get the Nazi reporting programs out of my head. Anyone that was a Jew lover or supported Jews was to be told on to the Nazis. If the Watchtower was a government it would be something of a socialist dictatorship.
there are many "proof" texts that people (including jws) use to justify their rejection of anyone that is gay.
there are a few scriptures that you can pull up and try to make a case for show homosexuals why they are evil and wrong.. i've been researching more of these scriptures and i'm coming to some very different conclusions than many other christians hold, especially jws.
i wanted to talk about the first text used by many people to condemn homosexual behaviour.
Even though he managed to have sex twice with his daughters whilst drunk? Whatta guy
How do you know that they did not get him extremely drunk, cover their faces, and then come to him?
Also, it is 2Peter that calls Lot righteous not Hebrews. Plus, you must keep in mind that though a Bible writer may have recorded specific sins and foolish acts of an individual does not mean that the person could not also have been righteous. Only Jesus was completely righteous and sinless. Though Noah, Abraham, Moses, etc. were counted faithful (Hebrews 11:7-29), they occasionally disobeyed God’s will, and acted foolishly or cowardly. God never blessed their disobedience, only their faithfulness.
Consider the harlot Rahab. While God did not condone her being a prostitute, she was “justified by works when she received the messengers and sent them out another way” (James 2:25).
Simply because God graciously saved Rahab from the destruction of Jericho, does not mean that God condoned her past sexual sins. Similarly, just because Peter called Lot righteous does not mean that Lot was perfect. Even the apostle Peter, who also served as an elder in the church, was guilty at one time or another of having a lack of faith, denying that he knew the Lord, and hypocritically withdrawing himself from Gentiles.
Though Lot’s offering of his daughters to the sodomites is inexcusable, Genesis 19 clearly indicates the distinction between the righteousness of Lot and the wickedness of the inhabitants of Sodom. The sodomites even hinted at such when they declared that Lot “keeps acting as a judge” (Genesis 19:9). This was the distinction Peter made—not that Lot was perfect, but that he remained uncontaminated by the actions that were prevalent throughout Sodom. Like Christians today who strive to walk in the light, though they are imperfect (1 John 1:5-10), Lot was a righteous man, who also made some memorable mistakes.
yesterday and today have been extra hard days.
as most of you know i am trying to releive my wife and family of the burdens of the watchtower, thus staying semi active in the org.
recent happenings in the world have caused the witnesses to tighten the grip on the peoples minds.
I find that I have what seems like a big hole in my life and heart.
Also, you DO have a big hole. You have to replace it. My faith in the Bible and in Jesus Christ has helped me immensely. I don't know where you are spiritually, but remember that religion and spirituality are two VERY different things. Right now all that has happened is that you have had one of the biggest parts of your life ripped out from under you. You haven't replaced it.
I urge you to read "In Search of Christian Freedom" by Ray Franz. After reading Crisis, I was left with that hole. But after reading "In Search" I felt so refreshed and ready to move on in my relationship with God.
yesterday and today have been extra hard days.
as most of you know i am trying to releive my wife and family of the burdens of the watchtower, thus staying semi active in the org.
recent happenings in the world have caused the witnesses to tighten the grip on the peoples minds.
I am getting sick of trying so hard and am on the brink of either returning (gag) or walking away from her and everything else.
I am with you on this brother. But you have to remember that you would be miserable going back. The fact is, you can't go back to the way it was before when you believed all of their bull. You will destroy yourself.
I have gone through this same feeling. I had to realize that my wife was worth fighting for. And it will all be worth it if she can eventually see what a dangerous organization this is and see that I loved her enough through it all to stick by her side and not give up.
You are where I was about 6 months ago. I've gotta tell you, it DOES get easier. It sounds like your wife has not yet accepted your position. While we both have chosen to remain "in" at this time, we can't back down so much. My wife is slowly begining to accept that I do not believe this is the truth. Things have lightened up GREATLY. And now I am getting to share alot with her mother. Her mom is now getting to the point of being disgusted with the organization. I couldn't have ever foreseen that happening!
The point is, stick with it, buddy. You can do it! Show your wife how much you love her, and that you love her enough to go through this horrible pain of trying to stick it out with her even though you know that this organization is tearing you up.
i'm from south los angeles and been to black congregations all my life, but i moved 70-75 miles north from where i grew up.
i just want to know the difference ..
When I was in New York, my congregation was mostly black (I am white). They seemed to be tighter and more friendly. They were always having get togethers and seemed to have a greater bond with each other. I didn't see a lot of the judgmental-ness that I saw in congregations that were largely white.
Of course, that is all subjective. I'm sure there are congregations that exist that are the opposite.
