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  Does Jehovah hate beards?

  by brotherunsure in

  1. watchtower
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  has the watchtower ever rationalized their obsession with depilation or claimed there was a biblical basis for banning beards, or is it simply because jehovah's corporation/faithful and discrete slave says so?.

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  brotherdan

  Watchtower's worst nightmare:

  
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  Does Jehovah hate beards?

  by brotherunsure in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  has the watchtower ever rationalized their obsession with depilation or claimed there was a biblical basis for banning beards, or is it simply because jehovah's corporation/faithful and discrete slave says so?.

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  brotherdan

  The Watchtower used to draw Jesus and other OT characters as having no beards. This was largely a Rutherford/Knorr practice.

  

  
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  So me, of all people, had a religious experience

  by sabastious in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i was sitting in my garage, as i often do, to chill out and i actually ended up becoming angry.. so here i am, in my garage, kicking it on the stool for the drum set that is in there (i am a pianist/composer, not a drummer).

  i start to think about all the crazy stuff that transpires on this planet.

  we have all seen shows and heard stories or maybe even witnessed events that don't add up.

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  brotherdan

  Pardon me, but that statement is really screwed up. You don't understand atheism, it is clear.

  I could see another group saying that.

  Pardon me, but that statement is really screwed up. You don't understand Jehovah's Witnesses, it is clear.

  I do understand atheism very well, dude. And I see how childishly ridiculous and irrational it is. But I'm not going to hijack this thread. My point was, don't mock what you haven't experienced.

  As for Cheeze, I never told you that you were going to hell. Maybe it was a dream...
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  So me, of all people, had a religious experience

  by sabastious in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i was sitting in my garage, as i often do, to chill out and i actually ended up becoming angry.. so here i am, in my garage, kicking it on the stool for the drum set that is in there (i am a pianist/composer, not a drummer).

  i start to think about all the crazy stuff that transpires on this planet.

  we have all seen shows and heard stories or maybe even witnessed events that don't add up.

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  brotherdan

  What did your brother have to say about it, Sab?
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  So me, of all people, had a religious experience

  by sabastious in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i was sitting in my garage, as i often do, to chill out and i actually ended up becoming angry.. so here i am, in my garage, kicking it on the stool for the drum set that is in there (i am a pianist/composer, not a drummer).

  i start to think about all the crazy stuff that transpires on this planet.

  we have all seen shows and heard stories or maybe even witnessed events that don't add up.

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  brotherdan

  It's funny. The modern skeptic humanist waits for someone to have a glimmer of faith or experience of the supernatural, and then they all try to jump on him and rip that faith or experience to shreds before it can grow. They want to make sure you know that you didn't feel what you felt, and that you're wrong!

  It reminds me of a group I used to be a part of. Atheists are basically Jehovah's Witnesses minus God.
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  So me, of all people, had a religious experience

  by sabastious in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i was sitting in my garage, as i often do, to chill out and i actually ended up becoming angry.. so here i am, in my garage, kicking it on the stool for the drum set that is in there (i am a pianist/composer, not a drummer).

  i start to think about all the crazy stuff that transpires on this planet.

  we have all seen shows and heard stories or maybe even witnessed events that don't add up.

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  brotherdan

  I'm sure you knew that by posting this you were going to get ridiculed by the skeptics. You know what you saw and what you felt. SBC has not had that sort of experience, so instead of getting jealous he's just going to mock you.

  Keep your eyes open, dude. There's been times where I've KNOWN that the Holy Spirit used me to accomplish something. That's going to mean absolutely zero to the skeptic. If I told them the story, the too would just mock me or say it was just random chance or that I was reading into things too much. I find it sad when people, like sbc, have NEVER had a spiritual experience. It strengthens faith. I'm makes things more clear. But you have to be open to it.

  Not trying to bash on you, Cheeze.
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  Why Would YOU Never Go Back To The Witnesses?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i think my mains reasons would be i don't believe they have "truth".

  and i refuse to allow them control over me..

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  I'll answer with a question.

  Why will I never go back and lick up my own vomit?
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  Heads up! Jesus is angry at the churches for their hospitals and feeding the poor......

  by miseryloveselders in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  next week's congregation bible study will explain and illustrate why christendom is toast, and how we can contribute to the joy of christ by supporting "the faithful and discreet slave.".

  the anger and the joy of the messianic king.

  10. like his father, our master is by nature happy.

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  brotherdan

  Also Christians teach SOOOO much more and are SOOOO much more effective that JWs. They realize that door to door evangelism is not effective. They realize that mindless meetings do not work. While I haven't been to a physical church yet, I do watch many church services online. They are exciting and encouraging. They've got great music. They have REAL question and answer sessions where anyone can come up and ask theological questions that they struggle with. And they can even....disagree! *gasp*

  But as long as they keep the r&f thinking that churches are just pure garbage, then the r&f will just continue to think they are better than everyone else and are in the "True Religion".
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  Heads up! Jesus is angry at the churches for their hospitals and feeding the poor......

  by miseryloveselders in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  next week's congregation bible study will explain and illustrate why christendom is toast, and how we can contribute to the joy of christ by supporting "the faithful and discreet slave.".

  the anger and the joy of the messianic king.

  10. like his father, our master is by nature happy.

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  brotherdan

  I have a feeling that it is to the Watchtower that Jesus would say, "I never knew you!" Who proclaims their works more?!? The Watchtower trumpets them from every building. Anytime the do relief work for other JWs they make sure to tell the media. And they'll help the next door neighbor to the KH so that it looks like they give back to everyone!

  They say that their powerful work of preaching earthwide is proof that they are true. Yes, that is a powerful work. It's just too bad that they are teaching lies.

  They also forget, in that paragraph, to show that Jesus required the feeding to the poor. Notice they don't quote from Matthew 25

  Mt. 25:31-46. "When the Son of Man comes in his glory, and all the angels with Him, then He will sit on His glorious throne. And all the nations will be gathered before Him, and He will separate them from one another, as the shepherd separates the sheep from the goats; He will put the sheep on His right, and the goats on His left.

  Then the King will say to those on His right, 'Come, you who are blessed of My Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world. For I was hungry, and you gave Me something to eat; I was thirsty, and you gave Me drink; I was a stranger, and you invited Me in; naked, and you clothed Me; I was sick, and you visited Me; I was in prison, and you came to Me.'

  Then the righteous will answer Him, saying, 'Lord, when did we see You hungry, and feed You, or thirsty, and give You drink? And when did we see You a stranger, and invite you in, or naked, and clothe You? And when did we see You sick, or in prison, and come to You?'

  And the King will answer and say to them, 'Truly I say to you, to the extent that you did it to one of these brothers of Mine, even the least of them, you did it to Me.'

  Then He will also say to those on His left, 'Depart from Me, accursed ones, into the eternal fire which has been prepared for the devil and his angels; for I was hungry, and you gave Me nothing to eat; I was thirsty, and you gave Me nothing to drink; I was a stranger, and you did not invite Me in; naked, and you did not clothe Me; sick, and in prison, and you did not visit Me.'

  Then they themselves will also answer, saying, 'Lord, when did we see You hungry, or thirsty, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not take care of You?'

  Then He will answer them, saying, 'Truly I say to you, to the extent that you did not do it to one of the least of these, you did not do it to Me.' And these will go away into eternal punishment, but the righteous into eternal life."
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  Heads up! Jesus is angry at the churches for their hospitals and feeding the poor......

  by miseryloveselders in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  next week's congregation bible study will explain and illustrate why christendom is toast, and how we can contribute to the joy of christ by supporting "the faithful and discreet slave.".

  the anger and the joy of the messianic king.

  10. like his father, our master is by nature happy.

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  brotherdan

  Hmmm...what DOES the Bible say to do with the poor?

  Does the Watchtower follow this command of Jesus?

  Luke 12:33. "Sell your possessions and give to charity; make yourselves purses which do not wear out, an unfailing treasure in heaven, where no thief comes near, nor moth destroys."

  Mt. 5:42. Give to him who asks of you, and do not turn away from him who wants to borrow from you.

  Mt. 19:20 The young man said to Him, "All these commands I have kept; what am I still lacking?" Jesus said to him, "If you wish to be complete, go and sell your possessions and give to the poor, and you shall have treasure in heaven; and come, follow Me."

  Mt. 6:2-4. "When therefore you give alms, do not sound a trumpet before you, as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and in the streets, that they may be honored by men. Truly I say to you, they have their reward in full. But when you give alms, do not let your left hand know what your right hand is doing, that your alms may be in secret; and your Father who sees in secret will repay you."

  Are they following the example of the 1st century apostles? Notice:

  Gal. 2:9 Recognizing the grace that had been given to me, James and Cephas and John... gave to me and Barnabas the right hand of fellowship, that we might go to the Gentiles, and they to the circumcised. They only asked us to remember the poor-- the very thing I also was eager to do.

  Acts 2:44. All those who had believed were together, and had all things in common; and they began to sell their property and possessions, and share them with all, as anyone might have need.

  Eph. 4:28. Let him who steals steal no longer; but rather let him labor, performing with his own hands what is good, in order that he may have something to share with him who has need.

  So it seems to me that the Watchtower is the one at fault here. Also, they pain a far different picture of Christianity (outside the JWs) than I have seen. I've learned more about the Bible after being out than I EVER learned in the Watchtower. And half of what they taught 50 years ago was lies. And there are things that they are STILL teaching that are lies.

  Using the babysitter analogy: The parents left the kids with the Babysitter, and the Babysitter fed them...but it was full of poison. That babysitter also said that because they complained about the poison being in their food, they could never again talk to their family and friends. I'll take the Christian babysitter over the Watchtower babysitter ANY DAY!!!!!