have you considered "days inn"
i thing its on dundas.
its cheap, and they have a pool.
regards
josephus
wish i could make it.
hi gang, .
to make it easier for the out of towners (especially the ones driving in from the us), how does everyone feel about having our next get together on a saturday...say saturday, august 18th, starting at 4pm?
(i'll be working on the 11th and the 25th...).
have you considered "days inn"
i thing its on dundas.
its cheap, and they have a pool.
regards
josephus
wish i could make it.
video-game character wondering why heartless god always chooses 'continue' .
orangeburg, sc--solid snake, tactical-espionage expert and star of playstation's "metal gear solid," questioned the nature of the universe monday when, moments after his 11th death in two hours, a cruel god forced him to "continue" his earthly toil and suffering.. .
" asked snake, hiding in a storage locker while two masked guards searched for him in the hold of a cargo ship.
very funny
i was about to say it was worthy of the onion, but you beat me to the punch.
thanks again
josephus
we the aforementioned apostates do hereby serve notice.
we want you to change the name of your organization.
we the people of this board, have suggestions for you.. 1. watchtower bible and lie society.
Its a Coca Cola crate.
and ill be cleaning windows with it this morning!
i am not trying to be rude its just that constant headbanging over the jws gets on my nerve (singular).
insulting people seems to me like a bad way to get a message across, and maybe more jws would leave if they
could just get facts.
it allso pisses me off when people try to damage others faith with no suggestion for an alternative.
anyway thanks.
jo
we the aforementioned apostates do hereby serve notice.
we want you to change the name of your organization.
we the people of this board, have suggestions for you.. 1. watchtower bible and lie society.
tryiing to distingquish between religion and cults is a waste of time.
ALL organisations display some cult-like traits.
be they in buisness or in religion. to say one is a cult and another is not is impossible.
jws MIGHT be a cult, just like catholics and loads of others.
i certainly harbour a resentment for them, but my opinion does not make it so.
i put things in caps because i am too lazy to learn to use italics.
yes they are rich, but again this doesnt prove them to be bad.
its fine to demand change, but its another to gullibly accept all the bs people say about jws.
you demonise every decision the gb make and every watchtower written with no regard for the fact that
that they are probably just old guys with problems they cant begin to solve.
Ray franz managed to leave with no bitterness. he believes much that is written in the mags is good
and usefull for cristians.
why not try and be a little more like him.
untill the gb try to do a jim jones with thier members i will believe there is some
good in them.
jo
we the aforementioned apostates do hereby serve notice.
we want you to change the name of your organization.
we the people of this board, have suggestions for you.. 1. watchtower bible and lie society.
WHOOOOAH BOY
save that hurling for an insignifigant little religion with no influence and less members every year.
Can you think of any religions like that ?
my point is you guys are using nukes to crack the nut that is the wtbts.
josephus
we the aforementioned apostates do hereby serve notice.
we want you to change the name of your organization.
we the people of this board, have suggestions for you.. 1. watchtower bible and lie society.
YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANW.
here we go again. lets hurl abuse at this tiny little org, while all the while ignoring
the HUGE groups who do far worse things.
Catholic nums were implicated in the murders of ruwandins (spelt wrong).
but do we hear people cursing the pope NO.
THE FACTS ARE SIMPLE.
the wtbts are wrong.
BUT they are not worse than many others groups, and are better than lots all over the world.
GET ON WITH LIFE.
or if you must, attack all religion.
stop beleiving every bad thing you read about jws.
if i wrote an article telling you guys the elders were into satanic child abuse you would all beleive me.
SADLY MANY PEOPLE LIE about the wtbts, and you guys only help them with your fake rage.
i saw a posting the other day where someone was "giving the wtbts fair warning" if they visited him.
YEEH RIGHT. they are reading hisr post and recording it.
some of you have the jws blown out of all proportion.
josephus
just wondering if there were any positives to being a jw.
i have read most of the posts and see that a lot of people were jw for years and years and was thinking that not all that time could things have been bad?
oh and somewhere in gen. it is supposed to state that we are living in the 7th day now????
ah yes farkel is right i do drink a lot.
however as in any club there will be good times, and bad.
you will enjoy beleiving you are better and more knowledgable than others.
you will enjoy gossiping, and bitching.
you will LOVE putting everything off because of thinking the END IS NEAR.
Sadly the clud will eventually make you pay dues, and that sucks.
your life will be in the hands of the elders. they say thats not so, but wait , and see how youll have to ask their opinion about everything you do.
i was and am a great chess player and was ADVISED to give it up to concentrate on spiritual things.
anyway if you go ahead good luck. if not try join a pub quiz team. youll get the same fun without the guilt about getting drunk.
im moving to toronto in september.
look for me playing chess on young street, beside sam the record man.
josephus
soon to be expatirish
i cant help but think some of you guys are just tooooo angry for your past hurts.. weve all got terrible stories which can make us cry, but whats the motivation for such bitterness ?.
some people search out pervets, seemingly to lay these scumbags and their faults at the societys door.. others try to use thier bad times as an excuse to rubbish the entire religion.. i am not saying that jws are great, or that the society is perfect or undeserving of punishment.. but why are we not trying to even up the good points of the religion.. no smoking, no drugs, no abortion, on and on, and on.. and then try to remember the good times you all had at the meetings.
the laughs and the help you gave, and received.
i cant help but think some of you guys are just TOOOOO angry for your past hurts.
weve all got terrible stories which can make us cry, but whats the motivation for such bitterness ?
some people search out pervets, seemingly to lay these scumbags and their faults at the societys door.
others try to use thier bad times as an excuse to rubbish the entire religion.
I AM NOT SAYING that jws are great, or that the society is perfect or undeserving of punishment.
but why are we not trying to even up the GOOD POINTS of the religion.
NO SMOKING, NO DRUGS, NO ABORTION, ON AND ON, AND ON.
and then try to remember the GOOD times you all had at the meetings. the laughs and the help you gave, and received
from others.
ALL religions are off the mark. but why arent you trying to dissuade people from joining them.
remember catholics ? the inquisition ? all the wars, all the hate, and we waste time trying to destroy an
insigniffagant religion which does a lot of good, as well as bad.
i just dont get you guys. ive had a terribvle time as a witness, and i will never sing because people have been disspirited and left religion.
jo
having only started to study with a jw she has yet to inform me of these elders, the book she gave me says a little, but after reading this board i see there is more i have yet to learn.
who are these elders?
i'm picturing a bunch of old men in velvet purple robes sitting around a circular table.
elders are just men.
some are good.
some are bad.
they generally mean well, just like everybody else in the world.
sadly they do have a legaslative role, and therefore if you join jws you ARE liable to answer to them
for your actions, regardless of the matters involved.
they dont realize the power they have. the ones that do are the REALLY danderous ones.
good luck.
josephus