Posts by Jourles

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Online Poker Banned in 'Safe Port' bill

by AK - Jeff in

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http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/061013/dcf009.html?.v=70.

i do not agree with this, do you?.

i am conservative - but this approach of sneaking a ban in though another bill is wrong, imo.. jeff .

Jourles

It's all about party polarization, especially when it comes time for elections. Just wait and see - you're gonna be watching TV one day and there will be a "mud-slinging" ad that comes on accusing the opposing party candidate of voting against food for starving children, or money spent on extra armor for the troops in Iraq. You'll think, "What a low down thing to do - voting against armor for our troops! How dare they!" But in reality, the same bill this senator voted against also contained a provision to allow clergy immunity from prosecution for molesting choir boys. It's stupid $hit like this that pits our Society against one another. In the previous example, a senator would appear anti-patriotic but at the same time seem very smart for not letting the clergy off the hook. Most of these bills put the lawmakers in a catch-22.

This is also why you need to thoroughly check out the tv and campaign ads that party candidates put out(if you put stock into them). If so and so voted against a bill that would have put extra armor on the backs of the troops, you need to see what else was included with that same bill. Chances are, there was something major included - something that stunk.

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Awkward moment Tuesday night

by Jourles in

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on tuesday night, i took an elbow to the nose while playing volleyball.

a guy i play with is an er doctor and recommended i go to the er just to make sure everything was ok. turned out i had a "nasal fracture with contusion.

" anyways, while talking with the admissions lady, one of the questions she asked me was, "any religion or church you want me to put you down as affiliated with?

Jourles

threw it against the Wall where it croaked
" NO BLOOD NO BLOOD"

lol, that was funny!

My wife didn't say anything about it. Not one word. I don't know how a jw could deal with such a thing happening to them. I mean, you're not supposed to "eat" blood, but here you are tilting your head back, squeezing your nose to try and stop the bleeding, but the blood is gushing down the back of your throat. I don't know how much blood I swallowed, but I finally stopped the bleeding after around 45 minutes. I was light headed and feeling sick to my stomach if that's any indication.

I can just picture a jw saying in private, "Oh God, please Jehovah, forgive me! forgive me! i couldn't help but swallow that blood. Please let me live through armageddon!! Ahhhhhh!"

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Awkward moment Tuesday night

by Jourles in

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friends

on tuesday night, i took an elbow to the nose while playing volleyball.

a guy i play with is an er doctor and recommended i go to the er just to make sure everything was ok. turned out i had a "nasal fracture with contusion.

" anyways, while talking with the admissions lady, one of the questions she asked me was, "any religion or church you want me to put you down as affiliated with?

Jourles

On Tuesday night, I took an elbow to the nose while playing volleyball. A guy I play with is an ER doctor and recommended I go to the ER just to make sure everything was OK. Turned out I had a "nasal fracture with contusion." Anyways, while talking with the admissions lady, one of the questions she asked me was, "Any religion or church you want me to put you down as affiliated with?" My jw wife was sitting next to me and I immediately answered "None." She slightly looked over to me, but didn't make eye contact. I think her response was more of a, "Oh, that's right - you're not a jw anymore."

It was the first time in my life that I was able to say I wasn't a [jw]. That was weird to say the least.

Oh, and the nose is healing just fine.

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someday I'll be 60

by darth frosty in

this past sunday took a great ride on my motorcycle with some 'brother's' who ride.

now all thru this ride when we would stop and take breaks and what not, every chance one of them got they would say how great it is for 'brother's' to get together and enjoy 'wholesome association'.

while admiring each other's bikes one made the comment how he was interested in a trike (3 wheel motorcycle.

Jourles

Well hell, darth. If I had known you went riding this Sunday, you should have rang me up. The weekend was gorgeous - unlike now. I could fake being a jw for a few hours.

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What will Pres. G. Bush do now?

by hambeak in

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after watching his impromptu press conference yesterday on abc i am convinced that clown wants a war with either n. korea or iran.

what do you folks think?

especially your take across the pond as you say.

Jourles

Jourles I couldn't disagree more on your veiws. Most countries have weapons to defend themselves, you don't see us going into them do you ??? What we are talking about is the expected use of NUKES!! And as mentioned before in this thread diplomacy hasn't worked, which is what Clinton tried with N. Korea.

Everyone can hee and haw over this entire issue until we're blue in the face, but it still doesn't change the fact that no one has used them on another country in over 60 years. NK and Iran will not use nukes against their neighbors or enemies simply due to the fact that THEY KNOW the USA will retaliate against them for doing so. It will be their countries which will be "wiped off the map." Come back to this thread in 5,10,15 years and let's see where we are at. If a nuke gets detonated in one of those countries, I'll eat my shorts and video tape it for everyone to enjoy. Until then, crazy or not, NK and Iran are only bluffing - taunting the US by flexing their muscle. I would be doing the same thing.

Again, what is with this double standard? How many nuclear "tests" has the USA done? Why didn't other countries impose sanctions against us for doing so? Oh, I keep forgetting. Our nukes are for "defense" purposes only. There's no way that these other countries would use theirs for defense too.

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What will Pres. G. Bush do now?

by hambeak in

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after watching his impromptu press conference yesterday on abc i am convinced that clown wants a war with either n. korea or iran.

what do you folks think?

especially your take across the pond as you say.

Jourles

With Mr.Cowboy Diplomacy out there, I think I would arm myself if I was one of the other two countries.

This is exactly what is happening. For some reason, some americans think that it is ok for us to invade other countries under the guise of lies, but it is NOT ok for another country, who just happens to be on the USA's $hitlist, to defend themselves against such an invasion.

A huge double-standard exists here. The USA screams that we need to defend ourselves by fighting "over there." But as soon as another country postures by showing off its defenses, "we need to take them out."

Again, why is the USA the bully in the schoolyard?

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What will Pres. G. Bush do now?

by hambeak in

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after watching his impromptu press conference yesterday on abc i am convinced that clown wants a war with either n. korea or iran.

what do you folks think?

especially your take across the pond as you say.

Jourles

It seems that war is the only solution to all of mankind's problems according to bush.

But what is the president to do when faced with these bad guys? Jump in a hole and pretend nothin' is wrong?

The real question is, What made these "bad guys" react like this in the first place? Did they just come out on their own to play out this drama, or did they feel threatened by something or someone?

A small analogy: You're out on a safari in Africa. You've been stalking this particular lion for a week, in his territory. The lion has no plans to leave his territory. You finally come across this lion. You sit there hidden in the bushes with your gun aimed at his head. He knows you're there and lets out a huge roar. You tremble a little bit but steady your weapon. He lets out another roar and walks around eyeing you. Your gun is still trained on his head. Remember, you're in his territory and he doesn't like it. What do you do? Shoot him or leave him be?

Substitute Bush for the hunter and Iran/NK for the lion. This is the present situation we are in today. What is the lion going to do if we leave him alone? What will likely happen to the lion if he wanders out of his territory into a city?

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Nanosolution Halts Bleeding (Medical Break Through)

by hawkaw in

nanosolution halts bleeding .

a biodegradable liquid developed at mit and the university of hong kong offers a new way to quickly treat wounds and promote healing.

by jenn director knudsen .

Jourles

The GB are jumping for joy as we speak...

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WT monitors sites?

by Gordy in

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there was a post on the other day someone was asking about whether the wt monitors websites such as this and other "apostate" sites.. unfortunately i couldn't find it to add this to it.

i remembered a jw who worked on installing computers at london bethel, some time ago telling me that the wt did monitor websites.

this jw is gradually fading away from being one, so can't say to much about him.

Jourles

Yes, even if someone simply views the page and moves on, their IP, operating system, and browser are all added to the log. It's virtually impossible to tell who is who this way, but the point I was making is for the people who reply to the thread. I'm sure there are quite a few people here who wonder in amazement over that little IP address mash of letters and numbers to the left. Some people(read: WTS) could use that IP address to narrow down the location of "apostates" that are still active in the org, such as elders. Once they get the city or small town where the IP address is geographically located, they can work out the clues from there. Go back through the posts(Minimus' ?) and find out what kind of car they drive, if they have pets, married or not, amount of kids, etc etc etc. Once they have a fairly good dossier compiled, they might think about presenting this info to the city overseer or CO. If any of the info rings a bell to them, they can start the questioning. It may sound far fetched, but it is quite possible and reasonable sound. If it were me working at Bethel trying to find people, this is how I would do it.

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WT monitors sites?

by Gordy in

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there was a post on the other day someone was asking about whether the wt monitors websites such as this and other "apostate" sites.. unfortunately i couldn't find it to add this to it.

i remembered a jw who worked on installing computers at london bethel, some time ago telling me that the wt did monitor websites.

this jw is gradually fading away from being one, so can't say to much about him.

Jourles

I can tell you that the majority of the ISP are using NAT and you cant go further than knowing someone ISP provider

Not exactly. NAT is merely a break point between the public IP address space and the private IP address space. Virtually all ISP's assign a public IP address(accessible from anywhere in the world) to its dialup/dsl/cable users. Places where you would likely receive a private IP address is a "wireless hotspot," such as in a coffee shop Also, if you are using a Linksys router off of your cable modem, you are using NAT. Instead of your personal PC acquiring the public IP address that your cable internet provider gives to you, your router is assigned it instead. Your router then uses NAT to transfer back and forth the info you request from the web to your PC which is located in the private IP address space. The majority of home routers use the 192.168.X.X space for all of your PCs. If you surf from multiple computers that connect to the same router, you will notice that your "IP address" on JWD remains the same. This is NAT working. Even though your IP addresses are different between computers on the LAN side of your router's network, the public IP address that is assigned to the router remains the same. This is what the world "sees."

For the folks who wanted to know how this tracking works, I'll go ahead and give you the rundown again. First off, get yourself a webserver that you can view the logs on(run it off your home pc - that's the easiest). Full detailed logs are needed(if you use apache, just alter the conf file to allow full logs). Throw up a small transparent .gif file. The one I use is only 1x1 pixels and is 58 bytes in size. Insert the url of this transparent .gif into a post as a picture. The only way someone will be able to see this .gif is by looking at the html source for the page. Otherwise, it is completely invisible. Now, when someone replies to the thread or to your post, a log entry is added to your webserver that shows their public IP address, the url they are replying or posting to, their operating system, and web browser along with a timestamp at the front. You simply correlate the timestamp to a reply. In the logs, most posts will even show up as a "post" or "reply." It's all quite simple to do. I wrote about this a while ago but I don't think anyone took me seriously. Probably because you have a 50/50 split of people who say it cannot be done and the other half saying, "can you?" Of course, there are the very few who know it can be done but may not be saying anything to keep it a secret.

Want to know what that little transparent .gif file looks like? It's right here --->

That's it! Nothing too technical at all.