Posts by Jourles

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Time again for........ Congregation roll call

by Jourles in

it's been a while since this topic has been brought up.

use it as a chance to see if there is someone you might know from years past.

1973-1976 --- lakeside, ca??

In your "opinion" are "DF" treated worse than "DA" ex-jws? Are equally?

by booker-t in

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when i was growing up in the 70's you rarely heard about "so and so" has "disassociated" themselves and are no longer one of jw's.

that was how i remember a jw's sister being announced as "da" in 1975. her family and my family were best friends and it sent chills down my family's back.

i was very young and i kept asking my mom, "can we speak to sister x-witness" "is sister x-witness still a jw's" "will she be destroyed at armaggeddon?

It is because of these two distinctions, or labels, that I took the path that I did when I was df'd. I certainly could have da'd myself, but I wanted the elders to df me instead. In my 32 years time as a jw, a da'd person was viewed as much more worse than a df'd individual. As has already been pointed out, a da'd person intentionally and willfully leaves jehover. A df'd person could have had a moment of weakness but the elders still df'd them for whatever reason(yes, even as a hardcore jw, I knew that elders sometimes made mistakes when df'ing someone). I felt that if I was df'd, all of my old friends would look upon my person better than if I were to have da'd. I know, there is no difference in the end between the two, but there really is in the back of someone's mind. I know I felt that way and so did many of my friends and family.

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Commercials

by purplesofa in

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i never did this until recently but i mute commercials (expect geico caveman ones) .

first cialis and viagra and now ....male enhancement commercials!!!

is this many people really having so many problems with sex?????.

Jourles

I can't stand Mentos commercials. And now Orbit gum seems to be using the same ad agency as Mentos...I can't stand theirs either.

And being in the cellular industry, it blows my mind that Alltel uses the tagline of, "Come and Get Your Love." WTF is that supposed to mean??? It makes absolutely no sense!

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How does one prepare themself to leave

by BFD in

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what are ways one can prepare themself once the decision is made to leave the borg knowing full well the consequenses will be losing all family and friends due to the shunning policy?.

i remember the emotions i went through when i first started to be shunned.

it was rough but, i was not left all alone in the turmoil, i had 4 siblings to lean on and at the time my dad was still alive.

Jourles

Get out and find new friends. Immerse yourself in a hobby or sport that involves other people. Go out with those people. Have drinks with them.

These things have certainly helped in my life.

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Time again for........ Congregation roll call

by Jourles in

it's been a while since this topic has been brought up.

use it as a chance to see if there is someone you might know from years past.

1973-1976 --- lakeside, ca??

Jourles

*bump* for all the new people...

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Watchtower to Sell 6 Brooklyn Heights Properties

by DannyHaszard in

watchtower to sell 6 brooklyn heights properties.

brooklyn daily eagle, ny -7 minutes ago.

... residential and all in brooklyn heights, according to david semonian, a spokesperson for the watchtower society, also known as the jehovahs witnesses.

Jourles

Once they blow through their windfall from selling off Brooklyn, the congregations will begin to consolidate and kh's will be sold.

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Knocking forum is now open on PBS website

by Jourles in

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here we go folks.

a newly opened forum for knocking is now open on pbs's website.

let's not let the jw's overrun this with crap.

Jourles

Below is a URL to search results, look for Stuart Chamberlain and see the ones he's wrote.

This is really funny considering that his "press releases" consist of him cutting & pasting an entire wt article! I see he hasn't changed one bit in over two years time. He still couldn't formulate his own opinions on the Knocking board. He merely posted links or c&p'd wt quotes. Amazing research capability there. I swear he and "sklemetti" were one in the same.

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Is It "Wrong" To Say That Someone "Sounds" Black??

by minimus in

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i saw boston legal this past tuesday and denny crane said he was impressed by the "articulate" man who didn't "sound" black.

this caused an uproar!!!

in a re-run on curb your enthusiasm, larry david makes a comment that's insulting to a black person and has to immediately apologize for being politically incorrect.. your opinion on this question, please..

Jourles

I for one applaud anything politically incorrect.

As do I. Which is why South Park rules!

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What's Your Favorite Sport To Watch & Play?

by minimus in

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i love watching boxing, especially the heavyweights and middleweights.

i also enjoy watching and playing tennis.

Jourles

<--------Take one guess

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knocking forum

by BlackSwan of Memphis in

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uh ok there have been two threads on the topic of the knocking forum closing.. from jen at the top of the forum:.

since launch, the lively debates seen here have been largely related to the jehovah's witnesses faith as a whole, with minimal posting and participation about the film knocking.

the goal of the knocking discussion forum, as listed in the standards of use, is to "discuss your responses to the film and web site with us and with each other.

Jourles

Well well well. Look at what I just found:

BIELERT v. NORTHERN OHIO PROPERTIES was a 1988 federal lawsuit in which David Bielert alleged that he suffered employment discrimination, in violation of Title VII of the Civil Rights Act of 1964, because he was NOT a Jehovah's Witness. NORTHERN OHIO PROPERTIES was engaged in the business of managing residential rental properties, which were located in several different states, and which were owned by several different investor groups. NORTHERN OHIO PROPERTIES was a subsidiary of ZAREMBA CORPORATION, a closely-held corporation owned by Tim Zaremba, Walter Zaremba, and other members of the Zaremba family. (See also: ZEREMBA GROUP and ZEREMBA MANAGEMENT.) The Zaremba family were Jehovah's Witnesses, and many of the investors and employees of the related corporations were believed to be Jehovah's Witnesses.
Bielert had worked for NOP as a property manager since 1971. In 1979, Bielert was diagnosed with cancer. He continued to work for NOP until 1983. His job performance allegedly greatly suffered due to his illness and medical treatments during that period. In 1983, NOP replaced Bielert with a Jehovah's Witness employee. Although Bielert was offered another position, Bielert felt that he was being slowly removed from the picture and would eventually be terminated anyway. Bielert was offered a severance package to resign, and he accepted such. After exhausting his severance package, he filed a religious discrimination charge with the EEOC. Thereafter, he filed this federal lawsuit, which was summarily dismissed by the district court due to insufficient evidence. The appellate court affirmed.

I guess my buddy is probably right. It appears that the Zaremba's are indeed jw's. Now I would just like to see confirmation on the Reibling family. The only connection that I've found between the WTS and the Reiblings was from the Confront! Resistance in Nazi Germany conference which was held at Boston College in 2002. Both the WTS and Taurus were major contributors. Lorenz was also listed as a individual contributor.

I also started another thread a while ago on all of this but I didn't know about the Zaremba family being involved.