a few people have asked how jwd came about and what my own story is and while i've posted it in bits and bobs, i've never tried to tell it as a story so here goes .... living in suburbia.
i was born a jw to jw parents who had recently been missionaries / pioneers in ireland and taken literature into countries like spain when it was banned but who were now living in suburbia near to where they had both been brought up.
we lived in a new semi-detached house in a cul-de-sac at the bottom of a hill - fantastic for building go-carts and racing down !
"Apostate Super Villian "
lol, wow what a title.
Thanks Simon for starting your story. Like Amazing you are going to keep up waiting and waiting. But I'm glad you started.
*shaking head* I sure hope Angharad has a lot of patience, because the apple doesn't fall far from the tree and your kids will have to let their wild side out sometime!
Please keep this story coming. It is great.
Hugs,
Joy
a relative has been admitted to the hospital due to their blood count going from 7-4. the first hospital wanted to transfuse but a transfer was arranged to another who works with the society's hospital committee.
they have instructed which doctor to request and the elders are standing guard.
i'd like to find out how low can blood levels go and are there any other treatments outside of transfusion.
LOL Frannie, that's ok.
One last thought. Please leave medicine up to the doctors taking care of your relative. They didn't go to extensive schooling to be told what they can or cannot do by window washers, janitors, etc JWs. I applaud any physician that is willing to practice outside the standard of care to respect people's conscience. They have tried many things to help people who restrict their way of practicing.
We don't have to be medical experts to be taken care of well. But we do have to know how to think, ask questions and follow simple directions, if we care about our health.
*stepping down off my soap box* Thank you
a relative has been admitted to the hospital due to their blood count going from 7-4. the first hospital wanted to transfuse but a transfer was arranged to another who works with the society's hospital committee.
they have instructed which doctor to request and the elders are standing guard.
i'd like to find out how low can blood levels go and are there any other treatments outside of transfusion.
PS to Frannie
flurosol is not used. It did not work out.
*shaking head* such a simple thing as giving a blood transfusion for blood loss and cannot be given to JWs.
a relative has been admitted to the hospital due to their blood count going from 7-4. the first hospital wanted to transfuse but a transfer was arranged to another who works with the society's hospital committee.
they have instructed which doctor to request and the elders are standing guard.
i'd like to find out how low can blood levels go and are there any other treatments outside of transfusion.
Benext,
I'm sorry to hear about your relative and the stress it puts on you.
First of all, we cannot make decisions for other adults. They have the right to decide what type of medical treatment they receive.
Unfortunately, this is a bad time to convince a relative that it is ok to take blood. About the only thing you can tell them is that it is no longer a disfellowshipping offense to take blood. They may announce you have DA'd yourself from the decision you make regarding blood, but it is a slippy slope where the blood issued is concerned currently with the JWs.
As far as how low can the red blood count of Hemoglobin go before there is damage to tissues of the body, especially the brain, there is no set answer or number to that question. There have been experiences of people who have low (2) hemoglobin counts that survive, but I notice there is no mention of quality of life or daily function after such an occurance.
What you describe as "injections" maybe a blood product that is approved by the WTBTs, erythropoeitin. It stimulates the production of red blood cells. But JW's cannot have another blood product, red blood cells, the oxygen carrying component in blood. Sad that it has come down to splitting hairs on what blood products are ok and what are not. Life is precious and to maintain it would seem most important.
Some hospital committees know that a cow's blood product, even though experiemental, has been approved by the WTBTs. Hemeopure. But it is not readily available.
About all you can do at this time is be supportive of whatever decision your relative has made regarding his/her life. This is a very painful time and so avoidable. All I hope is that you have love to show all, no matter how you are treated, no matter what decisions they make.
Please keep us informed.
Joy
edited to add: thank you iamallgrowedup for posting that document. Not many JWs know about it. But it was written so that JWs would not be viewed as a "cult" in Europe. Interesting that the R & F have no idea what it really means. *sheeesh*
jaden, flower, slipnslidemaster, and mrs. badwillie.
jaden, flower, and mrs. badwillie .
flower, mrs. badwillie, and badwillie's backside .
sorry Funchback, no offense to you, just teasing slippy
jaden, flower, slipnslidemaster, and mrs. badwillie.
jaden, flower, and mrs. badwillie .
flower, mrs. badwillie, and badwillie's backside .
What a nice happy looking group, except for the clown. lol
hi guys!
this is my first posting and my question is:
does anyone remember the movie (i believe the name was) "heritage" the borg presented on tv around 68-71?
I remember that film.
It was done in black & white. They tried to do some "hip" filming for the time period. I was totally embarrassed by that film. But I was young then. Oh well, should have listened to my youthful self.
Joy
edited to add: Welcome to the board gespro
here's mine:.
soul limbo / booker t & mgs.
dreadlock holiday / 10cc.
Sting *sigh*
i've got the first part of my state certification this morning...a three hour exam covering the last month and a half of training on state law, the judicial system, case practice, interventions, indicators of maltreatment and abuse et cetera and i've got anxiety out the wazoo (btw, does anyone know what a wazoo is??).
i have to pass this in order to keep my job and i've heard that it's pretty difficult, so i'm stressing just a wee bit.
i'm thinking the gallon of coffee i've already had this morning may not have been such a good idea??
I passed!!!
Way to go ((((Dana))))
Hope all is well with you! Congrats!
Joy
i had thought of posting this under 'apostafests and get-togethers' originally..............but then wondered if we should risk being exposed to active jws.
imagine the conversation..............."fancy meeting you here!
" would they shun us??????
hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm..............where is this camp suppose to be????
edited to say....oppps, "suburbs of Tampa" hmmmmm, now I'm wondering what Safe4kids is up to????
