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  44 years old and having I.V.F help to have a baby thanks too bastard "this Generation" lies!! Wife wants kids in 2016! My story.

  by Witness 007 in

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  as a young witness married couple in the 1990's we knew "this generation" of 1914 did not have long to go!

  oh how cute a young pioneer couple we were.

  we wont have kids till "afew more years pass" and we are in the new system.

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  Joyzabel

  Try, if that is what you two want. Fertility drops off after age 40 but a good fertility doc may help.

  Yes it is expensive but if you can afford it, then go for it. The oldest first time mother I delivered was 49 years old. She had used donated eggs (harvested from 20+ year old).

  In 1976 when I was at bethel and met many branch overseer's wives who were going through menopause and lamenting that they would have had children first before going into full time work if they knew "this system" was going to last as long as it had. That influenced me to change my mind from "waiting until after Armageddon" to leave bethel and have a family. I am so glad I did. Now I have grandchildren, which none are JWs :-)
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  Your Jehovah’s Witness Is Showing

  by David_Jay in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  since i just signed up and posted a few times without doing this yet, here is my story..

  i think that i became a jehovahs witness because of my immaturity.

  i had some quirky personality traits, and i joined finding that i fit in because, as i said to myself: these people get me.

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  Joyzabel

  Hi David,

  
  

  “Who cares what I mentally acknowledge to be real or true? It's what I am and how I live that defines me, not a creed or philosophy or ideology that I claim allegiance to that spells out who I am.”

  “I think it is best to do good than merely believe in good. All the belief in God won't feed another who is hungry, and that everybody deserves to be treated honorably, with respect, and cared for not on the basis of their creed but on because of the fact that they are fellow humans.”

  Great statements!!!!!

  Want to start a religion??? (j/king :-), but could make millions ;-) )

  But I really want to make this next statement of yours into a bumper sticker!

  “My beliefs don't define me. My actions do.”

  
  

  
  

  I love this statement. As JW’s we were always admonished “to do more” but of course the “actions” were silly JW stuff (door to door, talks, bible studies, etc) whereas now we are free to provide real acts of kindness and goodness to our fellow humans.

  You are very encouraging in your writing style and with sharing your thoughts. Keep them coming.

  Joy
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  How do you feel about the expression "The Truth"?

  by stuckinarut2 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  it's amazing how the expression "the truth" has become such an ingrained term used by witnesses.. "we have 'the truth'".

  "is he 'in the truth'?".

  most here have found out so many facts about the organisation, and felt the effects of being "gut-punched" as we realised these facts.. so how do you feel about the expression "the truth" now?.

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  Joyzabel

  Cults have their own secret language. That's how you can distiguish who is up to date in a cult.

  All those catch phrases make me cringe.
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  New anti-spam measures

  by Simon in

  1. forum
  2. announcements

  we've been bombarded by spam a number of times in the last few weeks and last night was the worst yet.

  i already built some tools to make removing it easier because i think the longer it stays up, the more it encourages it, but still it's annoying to see and interferes with the operation of the site.

  fortunately, we were able to catch and remove it relatively quickly.. i've now implemented and deployed some additional protection measures which i hope will better detect and block it from appearing in the first place.

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  Joyzabel

  You're the bomb!!

  keep on keeping on

  Joy *waving at the family!
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  Hello, this is my first post

  by noralee in

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  2. friends

  hello, this is my first post, i would like to introduce myself and say thank you to every one on this forum, you have been a lifeline to me these last few years.. i had been a jw for 30 years when i walked away a few years ago disgusted by the treatment victims of child abuse, domestic abuse and rape receive from the wtbts.. at first i thought it was a local problem, elders personal opinions, the way they handled the situations, imperfect men etc., until i checked out jehovahs witnesses and child abuse/domestic abuse online.

  that's when i realized they had the same modus operandi worldwide.

  that led me here, tbuo this forum, and then to crisis of conscience, jw facts, watchtower documents, jw survey, old watchtower literature and cd s, reading a couple of steve hassans books, and more recently exiting the jw cult.. the feelings of shock, betrayal, anger at the wtbts, angry with myself for being so gullible, depression, reflection, loneliness, have taken their toll.

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  Joyzabel

  Welcome!

  "I don't think I´ll ever really be able to forgive myself." If you can't by yourself, then get some counseling. You must forgive yourself to move on. We are all human and need to learn to love ourselves with all our imperfections. (one thing the WTBS didn't teach us)

  Be glad you got your family out. Don't look back but embrace what may come in the future.

  Joy

  "Living well is the best revenge"
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  How many visitors do we get ?

  by Simon in

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  2. friends

  someone was asking me in the chatroom about the number of hits the site gets.

  here is a brief summary (of what we currently get per week):.

  21,000 visitors.

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  Joyzabel

  Damn!!!! I had to look at when this post was originated and realized you DIDN'T bring the chat room back!

  whaaaaaaaaaa I miss the chat room.
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  Excellent Book for JW's (Psychological Recovery)

  by airborne in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i was in the cult for twenty years and da'd in sept. 2014. as time passes i feel that i am ready for more healing.

  the fear has passed of being out and i'm never going back to the funny farm.. an excellent book i came across for current and former jw's in the healing process is "exiting the jw cult: a healing handbook" by bonnie zieman.

  it's available on amazon kindle for $6.99.

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  Joyzabel

  Yes, both books are excellent.

  I think there is such a long process to deprogramming from any mind control group. I feel sorry for the walk away believers, they feel something is not right but don't understand the full dynamics of leaving such a group. So they never really deprogram but just drift in life they try to make outside of the control group.

  Happy reading!

  Joy
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  JT & Lady Cee Why we left the Jehovah's Witnesses - Part 2

  by JT-LadyC in

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  2. experiences

  jt further expounds on why we left the watchtower.

  why we left the jehovah's witnesses part 2.

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  Joyzabel

  Bravo! Well done. Very articulate and reasonable. You guys are awesome! May these videos help crack open the captive minds of JWs.
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  JT & Lady Cee Why we left the Jehovah's Witnesses - Part 1

  by JT-LadyC in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  many years ago, my husband and i appeared on the board that was known as h20 aka simon's site.

  it has been a while since we have posted anything, so i guess i can say that this is like coming out of retirement.

  lol.

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  Joyzabel

  Great video!!! Very well done. Was wondering when we would see you two again. Can't wait for more.

  Joy
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  New movie "Spotlight" coming out - child abuse cover-ups

  by WireRider in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i just saw a commercial for a new movie coming out.

  spotlight - about a newspaper exposing the cover-ups of the catholic church about child sexual abuse.

  michael keaton, mark ruffalo.

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  Joyzabel

  Saw Spotlight this afternoon. Excellent movie on child abuse among Catholics in Boston. Was stunned by the timing of the reporters investigating the article that came out in the Boston Globe. It was the same time period Bill Bowen and Barbar Anderson were interviewed by Dateline. Both stories were delayed in the press and public view due to 911 happening in 2001. Both stories were then reported on in 2002.

  I highly recommend seeing this movie, knowing how guilty the WT organization is, similar to the Catholics as the world is finding out.