Posts by gutted

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gutted - its July, are you growing your goatee yet?

by Soldier77 in

from my previous thread on allowing beards/goatee's and the pact that you brought up.

i've started my goatee this past weekend!

came into work this morning and one guy i worked with looks at me and goes, "wtf is that?

gutted

Hey man, I'm on board. Unfortunately I shaved Saturday for the DC, but I'm letting it grow now and next time I shave will be the goatee look. It will be interesting to see how the JWs will react . Then again I don't plan on any more meetings.

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Remain Close to the Governing Body DC

by gutted in

i just finished all 3 days of the dc and, for what it's worth, wanted to get down some of the highlights i enjoyed.

i went with family and i only did it for them, and hope to never attend another assembly ever again.. .

the whole thing was pretty boring and uncomfortable due to the stadium style seating which doesn't favour my long legs and ac being blasted too high.. .

gutted

Thanks guys, appreciate the kind words.

I just cancelled an upcoming talk and took myself off the TMS. It's crazy the guilt I felt, even though I knew I shouldn't.

The elder said "ok well we can talk about this later, give you some encouragement" and I went "sure sure" when I wanted to say "no, if I want to talk to you I will choose to"... I'm too 'nice' . Well I won't talk to him anyway.

Fadinnnnnnnng

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Remain Close to the Governing Body DC

by gutted in

i just finished all 3 days of the dc and, for what it's worth, wanted to get down some of the highlights i enjoyed.

i went with family and i only did it for them, and hope to never attend another assembly ever again.. .

the whole thing was pretty boring and uncomfortable due to the stadium style seating which doesn't favour my long legs and ac being blasted too high.. .

gutted

Hi all,

I just finished all 3 days of the DC and, for what it's worth, wanted to get down some of the highlights I enjoyed. I went with family and I only did it for them, and hope to never attend another assembly ever again.

The whole thing was pretty boring and uncomfortable due to the stadium style seating which doesn't favour my long legs and AC being blasted too high.

The main thing I took away is the Governing Body (GB) equating itself to Jehovah, as everything was taken from that slant. Another underlying tone was not to question anything, to obey completely. No allowances were made that elders could have really made a wrong decision. If just one part was included about something like this and how to handle it with the main organization it would have made a drastic difference, but alas it is a cult. Also, and obviously, a lot of brainwashing... I mean "repetition" of those points.

One talk on Friday entitled 'Never Become "Engraged Against Jehovah"' outlined not to blame "Jehovah" for actions of others... yet to remain obedient to Him. This is basically saying, don't be upset by the organization structure, it's members, or policies, because that is in effect blaming God. Instead blame Satan, time & unforseen occurances, and of course YOURSELF.

I'm sure this is a major part of all conventions and assemblies but it never struck me like this before after finding out the real truth.

The drama was ridicioulous. I hated how they injected "theocratic terms" very liberally such as "go to the meetings" "and "elders"... what a bunch of bull. I almost felt it was blasphemous what liberties they took with what supposedly went on between 66 and 70 CE and how it applies to our day.

All in all it was boring till the last much-talked-about talk, Remain "in the Secret Place of the Most High":

-Whether single (staying close to Jehovah while being single was focused on), pioneering, etc. trust in Jehovah because all have the privilege of preaching, if not full-time.

-Don't be envious/jealous of others theocratic appointments, they are done not by human favouratism (my ass) but by theocratic appointment.

-If you lose your privileges, don't be upset, reach out again.

-Quite a bit of focus on ones being upset if a relative leaves the truth. Why are they upset? Because no more everlasting life for the relative... but death. Now what really got under my skin was an experience of a couple whose son was DFed for 9.5 years, it was very distressing to the parents. The CO urged them not to take a "break" but increase their activity. The son was eventually reinstated and called his parents out of the blue thanking them they did things "Jehovah's way" by not contacting him. THIS REALLY MADE ME WANT TO SCREAM.

-Young ones were discouraged from higher education. There was another horrible experience to illustrate this.

-And then the generation bullshit. Pretty much exactly how others have described it on these boards, I don't want to go into details. What was of real note is I was looking around quite a bit during this part and it seemed no one was taking notes of this important change of "2 groups". I think it just totally flew over 99% of peoples heads. Good job GB, slipped another one under everyones noses.

After the assembly and today I have become very depressed. In a way it was sad to realize, having quite a bit of my family there, that I wouldn't be "sharing" these kinds of things with them anymore, and also the future fallout when I stop attending all meetings... perhaps shunning. I felt pity when I looked around at how easily these people, good people, are being fooled, how easily I was. I have resolved to stop going to all meetings. The mind control aspects I felt during the convention, how everything seemed so clear now, makes me believe I can't return. I am dreading the calls from elders and friends asking about me.

Well that is my experience, if you have questions just ask.

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Wonderful weekend of wtiness activity!

by gutted in

saturday - wake up with a big smile on my face, cause hey, it's field service time!

yay!

spend approx.

gutted

I don't want to but I am going with my family heartofaboy, it is a bit of a trip, that's really the only reason. I'm going to just chill, walk around, not pay attention and not feel guilty about it. I plan this to be my last "assembly" and I plan on fadding drastically after it.

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Wonderful weekend of wtiness activity!

by gutted in

saturday - wake up with a big smile on my face, cause hey, it's field service time!

yay!

spend approx.

gutted

Yes, I was being sarcastic. I'm tired of it, and the nazi congregation I'm in.

Next up, convention! I'm looking forward to the concluding talk.

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Wonderful weekend of wtiness activity!

by gutted in

saturday - wake up with a big smile on my face, cause hey, it's field service time!

yay!

spend approx.

gutted

The inapproriate comments were bad jokes that bombed, one was about MJ passing away... yes this guy sticks his foot in his mouth but he really did it this time. But I never thought it was that bad, just some lame jokes but as we know JWs are counseled on being "dignified" when giving speechs at weddings, here is proof of what happens if you don't follow things strictly.

It really pissed me off, what a bunch of uptight asses.

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Wonderful weekend of wtiness activity!

by gutted in

saturday - wake up with a big smile on my face, cause hey, it's field service time!

yay!

spend approx.

gutted

Saturday - Wake up with a big smile on my face, cause hey, it's field service time! Yay! Spend approx. 1.5 hours sitting in the back of a van, getting out to tag along for 2 RVs.

Go to friends boring JW wedding. No dancing, no booze, home from reception by 9pm.

Sunday - Argue with my mom over issues with Watchtower doctrine, high control aspects, am called "evil" and "satan". Promise myself to not getting heated about it again, but only to use tactful questions next time (I hope). Go to meeting, but they only have watchtower study. Find out friend was not allowed to give talk by elders because of "inapproriate comments" he made during his wedding speech.

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How about this?

by thraxer68 in

so, this might be more for those of us who were strong in the jw faith and possibly anyone who was strong in any other faith lie lds for example.

so we were all told that we need to believe, and be strong in that belief, and love what we believe, even to the point of death.

so you work on that.

gutted

There isn't a witness who doesn't have doubts, or had/has doubts, I'd put my money on that. WBTS does a great job of teaching people to suppress or shelf them.

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Most Ridiculous Thing You've Ever Been Counseled On

by MrFreeze in

i'm sure topics like this have already come up but they tend to get hilarious with the absolute absurdity that goes on in the kh.

i was once counseled for not shaving after two days.

i was also counseled by a sister for eating lucky charms cereal.

gutted

I had counsel on my face stubble before, especially when I didn't shave for a few days and then gave a demo on stage.

The worst thing I was counseled on was after a talk the elder which I was very close to basically said I need to change my personality to be more out-going. He knows I am more on the shy side and have a hard time with talks/comments, now I consider him an insensitive asshole.

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Field service reporting

by gutted in

so one of the elders called asking for my time.

i lied, somewhat.

yes i did talk to people about the "truth" but not in favourable terms.. has anyone simply stated, "i have not been in service this month"?

gutted

So one of the elders called asking for my time. I lied, somewhat. Yes I did talk to people about the "truth" but not in favourable terms.

Has anyone simply stated, "I have not been in service this month"? Do they eventually stop calling?

What's your experience with this part of fading.