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  1975???

  by 21stcenturywoman in

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  i have a few questions about 1975. i was born after 1975, so i don't know too much about the armageddon prediction.

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  Sayswho

  MAZE will have us believe the HOLOCAUST never happened...SHAME ON YOU!!! You pick and choose what you want you make me sick...

  • Go here and get the real facts...all the facts: http://www.jwfacts.com/watchtower/1975.php

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  New Simplified Watchtower - No More Beating Around the Bush!

  by Rank&FileGuy in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  looking forward to comparing the study edition vs. the simplified edition in upcoming months.

  the grip is tightening!

  more control!

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  This is not dumbed down, it has become more strict...RIGHT TO THE POINTOF WHAT THEY REALLY WANT TO SAY.

  This is going to get interesting...OBEY THESE MEN!!!

  Guy H. Pierce, Samuel F. Herd, Gerrit Lösch, David H. Splane, Stephen Lett, Anthony Morris III, Geoffrey Jackson

  Yes they are making it harder, and a more controlling "religion".

  When there is no personal accountability you can do as you want.

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  2nd attempt - Big AHA moment for me !

  by Lozhasleft in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  wontleave posted this on another thread:.

  jesus is truth and when an organization tells you they're "truth", they're calling christ a liar unless they are an exact representation of him.. wow !!!!

  of course...how could i have never noted this???

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  I never thought of it in that light. Makes sence!

  Almost daily I still hear people I work with call it the "truth" so the word must not be out or no one really listens.

  Reminds me of backcalls versus return visits. It took me years to stop saying backcalls.

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  The GB tightening their grip! Straw to break a camel's back?

  by punkofnice in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i post on a couple of forums and read and lurk and all that stuff.. a theme that seems to be gaining momentum is about how the gb are 'tightening their grip' and 'becoming more cultish'.. i don't read the publications anymore and oddly i read extracts of them on the forums.. punk is babbling now.............sorry...................my questions are (sorry if they're a bit long.

  sorry if i sound like satan: 'is it really so?

  ' but then i am a mentally diseased apostate).. 1. are the gb really tightening their grip or is it just the same as it ever was........but..........we just notice the propaganda more now we're out?.

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  More personal then the title "GB" Is the names of who make up this group:

  Guy H. Pierce, Samuel F. Herd, Gerrit Lösch, David H. Splane, Stephen Lett, Anthony Morris III, Geoffrey Jackson

  Yes they are making it harder, and a more controlling "religion".

  When there is no personal accountability you can do as you want.

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  The Governing Body - Elusive & Strong

  by the-illuminator81 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  when it comes to cults, jehovah's witnesses have a very strong hierarchical leadership system.

  in many ways it enforces their control on the individual.

  one of the tricks is that the lower levels of followers never get direct contact beyond the circuit overseer level.

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  A good practice would be when speaking about “them” --“GB” would be to use their name(s) not their title…

  Make it personal…as it is. This should be the current list:

  John E. Barr - born 1913-2010
  Guy H. Pierce - born 1934
  Samuel F. Herd - born 1935
  Gerrit Lösch - born 1941
  David H. Splane - 1944

  Stephen Lett – born 1949

  Anthony Morris III – born 1950
  Geoffrey Jackson – born 1955

  These “men” are responsible and need to be held accountable for their actions.

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  GOOD POINTS "the-illuminator81"

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  Freddy Franz' Unrestrained Mind Control

  by Alfred in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  nowadays, the wt knows that it needs to tread gently when they execute their mind control tactics... modern jws now have iphones, facebook and better access to information in general.

  so their approach needs to be as subtle as possible.... jws in the 50s and 60s, on the other hand, had nothing but freddys ongoing barrage of guilt-inducing wt articles.

  heres a small sample of what jws were exposed to during that time.... ...we shall march forth organized theocratically, knowing organization procedures.

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  Information readily available will make it harder to control, abuse, and get over on people...BUT they have to be looking...

  • Those that are still in will have a harder time finding the "Real Truth" unless something starts making them say in their mind "WTF"!!! ---- "did they just say that or what did they just change'...'why that was something that I was taught and believed all my life'...now it's not "true"???? WTF...NOW they have the power of the internet and can start looking for answers...if they are brave enough to use it.

  • Those that are not in can get the real "truth" easily on the internet without the fear of the "Borg" finding out and punishing them. So it will be harder to control anyone's mind easily...IMO

  Although they say if something is working why change?...Only when it stops! I think it has stopped for getting new recruits. So change is in the air.

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  "The Last Popes of the Watchtower"

  by leavingwt in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i just learned of this new book at the free minds store.

  i purchased a copy and i'm enjoying it.. .

  "for a 1218-page pdf file of the watchtower quotes being made currently that are used to control the masses, download the brand new and very large compendiary, anonymously written, the last popes of the watchtower.

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  Got this last night...worth every dollar Thanks

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  I could use some help arming myself.

  by WontLeave in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i know there is going to be a backlash to skipping the memorial and i want to be ready.

  i actually drove by the kingdom hall last evening, just so i could say i came on passover and nobody was there.

  this will initiate a watchtower worship session where they drag out all of their "scholarly" research.

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  Sayswho

  Start with a question:

  If it's about not going to the Memorial..ASK;

  1. Show me in Gods Word -THE BIBLE NOT THE WT- where we (non-anointed) are commanded to or asked to observe the Anointed who were told to observe.

  • Any verse they read will not apply to non-anointed...Let them know you know that and show them...

  If you are df for not following an unscriptural requirement then you know you are dealing with WICKED men---who know they are ---and you should deal with them as individuals because they are representing or enforcing what they know is wrong or should know...THIS MAKES THEM PERSONALLY RESPONISABLE and ACCOUNTABLE. Deal with them as you would anyone who is trying to bring harm to you and your family.

  You may not like this but...if people would stand up for what is RIGHT there would be LESS WRONG! (Reremember world war 2)

  You will be your worst enemy--keep your anger in check...be biblically correct...then you will have less to regret.

  • The 5's rule apply here: What's will it matter in...

  1. 5-minutes
  2. 5-hours
  3. 5-days
  4. 5-weeks
  5. 5-months
  6. 5-years

  • Then make your decision for action based on the answer as to how long it will affect you and your family.

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  i just came back from the memorial

  by J. Hofer in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  it wasn't all that bad.

  met a few friends who also don't give too much about it and had some great laughs afterwards.

  we talked about how we still remember when only about 7000 took from the emblems and now its more than 11000. we also laughed about how it would look like having jesus and his disciples pass around wine and bread on a plate like that.. all in all it was the same procedure as every year.

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  Just got back...

  • I am still missing the scripture (s) that shows we were told (commanded) to observe the ones that are required to observe the memorial.
  • I will even settle for any scripture that can be tweaked to imply that we the NON ANOINTED are asked to be there.

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  i just came back from the memorial

  by J. Hofer in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  it wasn't all that bad.

  met a few friends who also don't give too much about it and had some great laughs afterwards.

  we talked about how we still remember when only about 7000 took from the emblems and now its more than 11000. we also laughed about how it would look like having jesus and his disciples pass around wine and bread on a plate like that.. all in all it was the same procedure as every year.

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  Good to know...we go in about 3.5 hrs.

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