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  GB's letter regarding UN membership - How Do You Prove Them Wrong?

  by will-be-apostate in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i was reading brant jones' experience (published on jwfacts.com).

  i read both letters: the one he wrote to the gb and the one he recieved from them.

  link: http://jwfacts.com/watchtower/experiences/brantjonesunresponse.pdf.

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  The evil of the UN was pounded into the minds of Jehovah's Witnesses meeting after meeting after meeting; as the very tool of Satan the Devil...In the November 15, 1963 Watchtower, a resolution was written stating, in part "...To date 111 nations have given worship to this political image by becoming members of it. However, we, as witnesses of the Sovereign God Jehovah, will continue refusing to engage in such idolatrous worship..."

  • Joining for any reason then would be as stated above in the WT Nov. 15, 1963 as "to engage in such idolatrous worship..."

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  GB's letter regarding UN membership - How Do You Prove Them Wrong?

  by will-be-apostate in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i was reading brant jones' experience (published on jwfacts.com).

  i read both letters: the one he wrote to the gb and the one he recieved from them.

  link: http://jwfacts.com/watchtower/experiences/brantjonesunresponse.pdf.

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  • How about...THEY KEPT IT A SECRET FROM MOST JWs?

  Watchtower Magazine,January 1st, 1979, page 31

  "In joining the YMCA as a member a person accepts or endorses the general objectives and principles of the organization. He is not simply paying for something he receives, such as when buying things being sold to the public at a store. (Compare 1 Corinthians 8:10; 10:25). Nor is his membership merely an entry pass, as when a person buys a theater ticket. Membership means that one has become an integral part of this organization founded with definite religious objectives, including the promotion of interfaith. Hence, for one of Jehovah's Witnesses to become a member of such a so-called "Christian" association would amount to apostasy."

  • Joining the UN would at least be equal to the YMCA...in what not to do.

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  A Dummy's Guide to the 'This generation' doctrine

  by Honesty in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  a jehovah's witness explains the watchtower society's 'this generation' doctrine..... .

  http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/jehovahs-witness/t3heh0tafiuk6f9t3.

  what do you think about his explanation?.

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  1 Corinthians 14:33...

  King James Bible
  For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints.

  • The evidence posted here with this topic and a quick review of the religion around the world...show he is a god of confusion!
  • Even if you checked your mind at the door...this teaching is confussing.

  • If the lives of people depend on understanding this teaching (or the bible) then we are all as good as dead... But wait...all people will die someday!

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  BEWARE!

  by Terry in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  only rational thoughts are accessible to rational arguments.

  once the category of "god" is established in your mind (usually at an early, impressionable age) you can't ever close the file.. it is unassailable.. why?because it becomes rooted before you develop rational thinking skills.. categories of ghosts, devils, superstitions hold true as well.. what you can do (since they cannot be removed) is modify your emotional reactions connected to these concepts.. what are emotions?

  they are signals (like beacons) informing you of the importance of your values.. the most deeply-rooted values signal the strongest emotional responses.. what you perceive to be a threat signals fear.

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  It would seem that we were programed to see things one way, it takes an effort to changed this ingrained set of thought. It's like taking a computer eprom (computer chip) and changing the language-set of rules-- to another..this can be done if all remaining Programing is removed... are our minds the same? We have the ability to remember everything...These bleed through...

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  BEWARE!

  by Terry in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  only rational thoughts are accessible to rational arguments.

  once the category of "god" is established in your mind (usually at an early, impressionable age) you can't ever close the file.. it is unassailable.. why?because it becomes rooted before you develop rational thinking skills.. categories of ghosts, devils, superstitions hold true as well.. what you can do (since they cannot be removed) is modify your emotional reactions connected to these concepts.. what are emotions?

  they are signals (like beacons) informing you of the importance of your values.. the most deeply-rooted values signal the strongest emotional responses.. what you perceive to be a threat signals fear.

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  Thanks Terry...this is food for thought!

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  To the gullible jw who beleive (worship) the GB

  by bobld in

  1. jw
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  in this weeks wt study p20 para 17 the gb directive in part says "all of us must be ready to obey any instructions we may receive,whether these appear sound from a strategic or human standpoint or not".

  it behooves me,how anyone would obey such an organization,when you were told to preach and exhort people with a message(bible doctrine) for over a hundred years(and not question the message or the gb) only to find out the message was false.see wt july 15,2013 p8.-great tribulation did not begin in 1914.judgement of the sheep and goats did not begin in 1914.jesus arrival to appoint the faithful slave did not occur in 1919.wt 1984,1914 the generation that will not pass away.. in your clean christian conscience are you willing to obey such a vacillating organization.the proper thing to do is resign from this organization.

  go apolize to the people for misleading them with a false message(doctrine).go preach the true gospel of jesus christ..

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  • In your clean christian conscience are you willing to obey such a vacillating organization.The proper thing to do is resign from this organization. Go apolize to the people for misleading them with a false message(doctrine).Go preach the true gospel of Jesus Christ.

  Well said. However I will not be able to find those ones I unknowingly mislead. But I will not be doing so anymore!

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  Inaccurate hours recorded

  by snare&racket in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  ignoring the fact that all but the super jw's had a random stab at hours done in the ministry, with all the different activities the society said counted as ministry hours, just how accurate is there annual report?.

  what activities do you know of that were allowed to be counted as ministry time?

  here are some i knew of.... .

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  I have more hours that i did not go out then I did...sad but true.

  Doesn't free come with a price? nothing is really free, is it?...not in my experience! ('free mag')

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  Fallacies about Faith

  by tec in

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  peace to you!.

  this thread is about false things (some) atheists think theists believe.

  this is not a thread about false things that atheists think about theists.

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  well i just lost about 3 min of my life skimming through this...i wiil try and get it back with a scotch, it will help me in forgeting what i read.

  That's my fallacy (poor reasoning) of what makes sence or what what will help me cope with BS.

  Edited: no offense intended:) must be the scotch influence before i read this...

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  Freedom From Atheism Foundation

  by Seraphim23 in

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  in the interests of being fair, i feel i have to point out this facebook page.

  after one minute of reading, i located at least one lie regarding the tyt or young turks presenter cenk.

  they said he was an atheist so i pointed out that this is not correct as he self identifies as an agnostic.

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  • However propaganda and lies don’t get my vote no matter who it is from.

  AMEN

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  Saludos!!! Desde una asamblea de circuito....

  by juanvazquez88 in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  from monterrey, mexico..... status: ready to vomit in any moment, i cant listen another man saying: "were are imperfec, but were best that the outsiders".

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  Greetings! From a circuit assembly ....

  Ok now i know hat this topic is about..

  Good to know...I am at home enjoying the beautiful SWFlorida day...