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  JWs say it's my fault I didn't go to university ?!

  by ekruks in

  1. watchtower
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  like many on here, as a jw trying hard to follow the direction of the gb, i listened to the advice to pioneer and trust in jehovah to provide (mat6.33) instead of going to university.

  after struggling for ages in low-paid physically-demanding jobs, i decided to become a student (thanks for the encouragement on here guys!).

  i tell a jw i wish i had been to university when i was a teenager, and put all that pioneer time into studying hard for a good grade, get a good job, and if i had wound up tired as i am now, at least i would have been paying into a mortgage on a home and pension.

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  People have put their trust in religions for thousands of years. It was not your fault that you did so. If you did it now, it would be your fault.

  Well said...Thanks

  SW
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  Greetings from a new member

  by EdenOne in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  greetings everyone.. just wanted to say hello to everyone, being a new member from western europe.. some may know me from another forum (eden, from e-jehovas-witnesses.com), but most don't, so this is my little intro.. male, in my early 40's.

  still an active member in good standing of a jehovah's witnesses congregation in my country, and honestly not planning to change that status, despite my unorthodox beliefs.

  sometime i will elaborate the reason why i don't feel i must leave.

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  Welcome I think

  SW
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  What evidence is there for Jesus (NOT USING THE BIBLE)?

  by punkofnice in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i have often wondered if there is any actual archealogical evidence that jesus existed other than the claims of the bible.. i don't want to go down the route of 'you can't prove he didn't exist' as this is tiresome.

  or 'well pontius pilate existed we found a stone with his name on so it follows jesus existed!

  ' that won't cut it.

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  mP--- I agree

  One way of controlling people is by force, but this is subject to resistance. It appears the best way to control people is to find a way of uniting them. Religion does just that.

  Does this prove Jesus Exist? Lets hope not!!

  If people believe that they are doing something for a just cause they can be persuaded to commit acts of extreme violence.

  In parts of Ireland, Catholics and Protestants have killed and maimed each other in the name of their Christian religion.

  This is the opposite of how a Christian should act.

  Just because somebody claims to be a Christian it doesn't mean that they are.

  And if religion were banned wouldn't violent people find another cause other than religion for their violence?

  Religion is one of the most effective means in uniting people, those who seek power and control often use religion to unite people into achieving their goals.

  It is the quest for power and control that causes violence. The fact that people are intolerant of difference is the cause of much of the world's violence.

  If religion were removed there would be something else for people to fight about.

  IMHO

  SW
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  What evidence is there for Jesus (NOT USING THE BIBLE)?

  by punkofnice in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i have often wondered if there is any actual archealogical evidence that jesus existed other than the claims of the bible.. i don't want to go down the route of 'you can't prove he didn't exist' as this is tiresome.

  or 'well pontius pilate existed we found a stone with his name on so it follows jesus existed!

  ' that won't cut it.

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  There are those who say, "because of how people conduct themselves"…

  Belief in Him has influenced people or groups to act in various ways, some Loving, Kind; others Evil, Murders, killing in His and His Gods name. (Depending on who u think He is)

  The fact that he existed is debatable, but the belief that he did and how it influenced humans to act or react is not. This is evident throughout religion.

  I was told that the reason God does not preform miracles today to prove he is real is…….Because we have the complete Bible as proof of His existence…

  How naive, trusting I was…

  SW
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  Agents of Reality came knocking on my door today ...

  by 00DAD in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  two agents of reality came by my house this morning.

  no, i'm not talking about jehovah's witnesses.

  those are agents of unreality in case you're unclear on the subject!

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  "We don't see things as they are...we see them as we are." Anais Nin...

  "Trust those who seek the truth and doubt those who say they've found it" Heard it from Hannah (Alex Moaba) From Dexter season 7(one of my favorite shows)

  Good points...00DAD

  • Feel like a deer caught in head lights?

  Sw
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  Merry Christmas everyone

  by dgp in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  may this christmas be happier than any other you have had, but not as happy as next year's.. .

  dgp.

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  MERRY CHRISTMAS

  Now that was liberating...

  Sw
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  The Historical Dictionary of Jehovah's Witnesses

  by Malsonilla in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i found this pdf, (i'm probably not the first one to post about it) the historical dictionary of jehovah's witnesses by george d. chryssides.

  i have only read the preface of the publication in which the author thanks the wtbts for their full cooperation in the writing of the publication.

  hmmmm .

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  • Sorry Did not realize you had to sign up to get the file
  • SO I'M TAKING THE LINK DOWN!! and will try and give public access. If anyone wants it let me know.

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  The Historical Dictionary of Jehovah's Witnesses

  by Malsonilla in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i found this pdf, (i'm probably not the first one to post about it) the historical dictionary of jehovah's witnesses by george d. chryssides.

  i have only read the preface of the publication in which the author thanks the wtbts for their full cooperation in the writing of the publication.

  hmmmm .

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  Here's a link to my free account...see if it works...Hope it's not too confusing.

  http://www.4shared.com/office/TmSKYoX8/Historical_Dictionary_of_Jehov.html

  SW
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  PONDER THAT sometime in the still hours before sunrise.....

  by Terry in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  jehovah's witnesses are taught that they are engaged in a life-saving work.

  in the louvre is a special vault with 15 miles of shelves containing medical treatises, cures, treatments, speculations, procedures from time immemorial.

  now the fascinating aspect of all these state-of-the-art manuals and documents is that they are scientifically bogus!.

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  It would stand to reason that JWs have saved peoples lives by following bible principals...not because they have God's guidance coming through them.
  Anyone, or any religion that follows or teaches what we consider good moral habits may or can help you live a longer (better?) life.
  However the Jehovah Witnesses -GB - are responsible for what I would say to be millions of lives ruined, destroyed, or “lost” throughout the last 130+ years. My life and those of my family and friends being counted among them.

  History shows this to be absolutely true...This can be debated all day however at the end of the day...the reality is - the truth is - More lives have been waisted then helped - WHY?
  Because there are 7+ million JWs today who have been indoctrinated to wrongly believe that they are in the only true religion that God is using to guide mankind...
  WHAT DOES THEIR HISTORY REVEIL? Here's one example of their guidance:
  
  Awake! 1969 May 22 p.15
  "If you are a young person, you also need to face the fact that you will never grow old in this present system of things. Why not? Because all the evidence in fulfillment of Bible prophecy indicates that this corrupt system is due to end in a few years. ... Therefore, as a young person, you will never fulfill any career that this system offers. If you are in high school and thinking about a college education, it means at least four, perhaps even six or eight more years to graduate into a specialized career. But where will this system of things be by that time? It will be well on the way toward its finish, if not actually gone!

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  • Just because you don't like the answers doesn't make them untrue!!!

  WE can never get back time...but NOW we can take control of OUR future and help others to not get caught in their trap.

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  SW
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  Who Is On Your Concert "Wish List"?

  by breakfast of champions in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  here's a few i've missed and hope to see:.

  leonard cohen.

  radiohead.

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  • Were taking one off our list on Dec 15, 2012

  • Joe Bonamassa...In SW Florida

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=46UFXQVSnKs