Thank you for sharing, you're brave for sharing what you know with them. I'll have to research the third heaven now too.
NiceDream
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Notes from my Judicial Committee (I was DF'ed at the end)
by notverylikely inthese are the details of my disfellowshipping.
the names and locations have been changed to protect the innocent and the guilty.
my errors are not hidden in an attempt to make me look better, this simply is a presentation of the facts that led up to the disfellowshipping and a re-telling of the contents of the meeting.. .
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Finally talked to my dad about it...
by gutted inlast night i finally talked to my dad about some of my views and problems with being a witness.
he brought it up as he heard i am no longer going to meetings.. .
his line of reasoning was interesting, though very similar to "it's god's organization, just follow it".
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NiceDream
It's nice you were able to talk to your Dad about it. It's interesting to see different people's reasonings for staying in. I recently talked to my Dad, and he basically felt that the organization makes mistakes...and even admitted they cover over their mistakes which looks bad!!! But, it's "the truth." No other group preaches to the extent they do, and the world is a bad place that has to be ending soon. He also mentioned he has no regrets about being a witness, but I bet he does because the religion is messing up my life and it messed up his relationship with my sister.
My Mom told me that she feels that there is one God, but he's not going to punish people who love him, no matter if they go to the meetings or not. She's tired of religion!
To attempt and plant a seed of doubt, I said most of their friends have left "the truth," even the guy who brought them into it and his parents...they must have a good reason. And an elder also left from our hall, why? He also must have had a reason too. I told him it was the UN issue that bothered his conscience.
There isn't reasoning with them, only seed planting. My husband realizes that the organization makes mistakes and had some pretty crazy and even stupid ideas published, but "it's the most right" religion to him and nothing is going to change that.
Maybe your Dad could help remind you why it's God's organization, but the WT says we're not supposed to ask that question and it could hinder further conversations with your Dad.
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What to make of this admission?
by NiceDream inmy husband told me that he realizes the wt uses human reasoning, has made lots of mistakes, covers things up, and has published some pretty crazy and wrong ideas...yet he still believes it because "it is the most right" to him.. is this common for jws?
i'm not understanding.
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NiceDream
Darn! I was hoping that he'd leave the borg soon. Obviously this religion was something totally different than I thought it was, and once I realized that, I didn't see why I couldn't believe something else instead.
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How manly is your drink?
by BurnTheShips inhttp://www.askmen.com/daily/photo_blog/infograph-how-manly-is-your-drink.html.
i drink single-malt scotch, natch.
bts.
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NiceDream
Dark rum for me...I'm enjoying one now.
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What to make of this admission?
by NiceDream inmy husband told me that he realizes the wt uses human reasoning, has made lots of mistakes, covers things up, and has published some pretty crazy and wrong ideas...yet he still believes it because "it is the most right" to him.. is this common for jws?
i'm not understanding.
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NiceDream
My husband told me that he realizes the WT uses human reasoning, has made lots of mistakes, covers things up, and has published some pretty crazy and wrong ideas...yet he still believes it because "it is the most right" to him.
Is this common for JWs? I'm not understanding.
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Can someone please explain to me...
by MrFreeze in... what joseph's brothers have to do with generations overlapping?
in the final dc talk they use joseph's brothers to indicate overlapping generations.
does anybody have any clue what that has to do with the generations in matthew?
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NiceDream
It doesn't make any sense, but 2 scriptures used were Ex 1:6 and Gen 50:24. The first was about Joseph and his brothers being a "generation", and the second was that 2 of Josephs brothers lived after his death, but they were still 1 generation. Their lives overlapped, but they were one generation and contemporaries.
This generation issue is what raised a red flag and led me out of JWland.
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Does the CO visit inactive ones during his visit?
by NiceDream inwe haven't been to meetings for a few months and weren't aware of the co visit until we received a phone call an hour and a half before the meeting letting us know.
no one came to visit us so far this week, not that i'm complaining.
does the co usually stop by in service?
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NiceDream
Hmmmm, we were visited last month by an elder and the secretary and I said we were busy. They seemed taken aback. Maybe that was my test and we're on the fader list now...one can hope.
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An observation on being free of WT busywork...
by undercover ini was looking at my calender for the remainder of the year and realized just how busy we are.
visiting friends out of town.
friends visiting us from out of town.
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NiceDream
Isn't life fun! Actually being able to enjoy friends and the summer without rushing to get to a meeting or getting up early for service? My epiphany was jumping on the trampoline with my toddler on a warm Thursday evening, having a blast, and watching the witnesses drive by to get to the meeting in their dress clothes. It was the first time in my life that I felt FREE.
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Does the CO visit inactive ones during his visit?
by NiceDream inwe haven't been to meetings for a few months and weren't aware of the co visit until we received a phone call an hour and a half before the meeting letting us know.
no one came to visit us so far this week, not that i'm complaining.
does the co usually stop by in service?
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NiceDream
Interesting! My parents were friends with the CO and his wife 20 years ago when we were in the same congregation. But we've all fizzled out in our meeting attendance. Most of my parents friends are no longer witnesses, even the guy who studied with them and his parents aren't anymore. That was eye opening for me.
This CO doesn't seem to remember me, which is good. I was very young when I knew them.
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Does the CO visit inactive ones during his visit?
by NiceDream inwe haven't been to meetings for a few months and weren't aware of the co visit until we received a phone call an hour and a half before the meeting letting us know.
no one came to visit us so far this week, not that i'm complaining.
does the co usually stop by in service?
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NiceDream
We haven't been to meetings for a few months and weren't aware of the CO visit until we received a phone call an hour and a half before the meeting letting us know. No one came to visit us so far this week, not that I'm complaining. Does the CO usually stop by in service? I've never had the CO over or a sheperding call, so I wasn't sure what usually happens.