new here, but have followed this site from the very start.
as my name states, i have seen it all.
former elder, bethelite, po, ms, 4th gen and still active as pub.
Welcome to the forum seenitall. I admire your courage and love for staying in and helping out the "beatup, thrown about sheep." Perhaps you can help others to see as well - under cover of course! You must have many many horror stories to tell considering your positions held.
I look forward to reading of your journey.
All the best!
omg i just heard this morning that they have a table set up at the local walmart, so i had to drive by.
it is huge with two huge signs one spanish and one english of blown up pictures of some of the book covers like you can live forever and young people ask, etc with a card table in the middle and two very boarded looking people just sitting there.
this morning was the spanish congo's turn but the walmart is in my halls territory so the english speaking ones from my hall will man it on the english speaking times i guess.
I know, I know, mr.Flipper.
All Jehovah's Witnesses are rapists! Including me....
Shhhh...
Peace in & Peace out!
Titus: That is really distasteful! I fail to see any humour in that comment. You are taking something serious and making a mockery out of it. Not one person has every intimated that ALL Jehovah's witnesses are rapists. There ARE many rapists out there and some are Jehovah's witnesses! People have been hurt and their lives have been torn apart by this. DO NOT UNDER VALUE what others have gone through! It is NOT a joking matter. What the policies may or may not be is NOT the point - the point is WHAT IS ACTUALLY GOING ON!! They are two different realities.
People devoting their own time to keep others safe is admirable.
Good job LITS! You are one courageous woman. Mr. Flipper - I very much appreciate your comments!
for me, i was 100 percent brainwashed.
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Welcome to the forum Fractured-Mind! You are in the right place. As you can see we've all been messed up to some extent being a part of this org. This is a good place to vent and talk to others who have similar stories. It can start the healing process.
I wish you all the best.
not to be construed as doctrinal in any way but: since jw's counter the trinity doctrine by saying the word trinity cannot be found in the bible i thought it might be fun looking at other examples like:.
governing body.
any one else want to add to the list?.
Paradise earth, field service reports, theocratic organization, Jehovah's wifely organization.
came out as an apostate to the wife, came out about the depression, anger at being second fiddle in her life to 9 old guys in brooklyn, came out about having turned atheist, came out about the indiscrections, the tobacco use, everything.. fuck.
me..
All the best to you NVL. As hard as it may be now, the relief of being yourself will win over. Your children will be the better for it. They will have a healthy father who is REAL and has unconditional love for them. Enjoy your life! All the best.
i would like to start my 1st post by saying thank you.
to the site itself and to all the posters.
my story begins with me meeting the woman of my dreams 4 years ago.
Welcome to you both! I wish you the best with your families. My thoughts are with you.
for me, i was 100 percent brainwashed.
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Enough to stay in it for 35 years and have it drastically affect my life. Gotta turn that around. Figuring out how is the hard part.
so... if there's anyone from bethel or an elder who could comment on this question i would appreciate it.
i am beyond understanding this..... my sister's daughter - (my neice - not a jw) is getting married to a young man (not a jw) in a few weeks.. her dad is df'd - so is our brother.. apparently my other sister and her "elder" husband can attend the wedding if the bride's df'd father is in attendance but not if her df'd uncle (our brother) is there.. please.... i just don't get it!!!!
there's df'd and then more df'd????
Welcome liz_south! Sorry to hear of your dilemma. Unfortunately the WTS is an expert at ripping families apart. It is up to the bride and groom who they invite to their wedding. It's their special day.
I hope all goes well!
there's always a lot of discussion about "bringing down the wts" and how it will "never happen" because they'll just keep going and going.. so here's my question.
granted that barring some major international changes of a catastrophic scifi nature the wts is going to exist in some shape or form for the next hundred years and probably more, what progress on the "apostate" front would you personally consider a success?.
would you simply be happy to have all of your blood relatives out?.
LOL! In reality they certainly would whisk him off the stage stating Satanic possession! They would certainly implicate us R&F for blood guilt like they do with everything else.
But . . . in my dream - he keeps talking and everyone wakes up and the demise of the WTS makes headlines and people learn to love again.
Oh - in my other dream I've just won 103.5 million dollars and am deciding on a red or midnight black Bugatti Veyron . . . maybe both
there's always a lot of discussion about "bringing down the wts" and how it will "never happen" because they'll just keep going and going.. so here's my question.
granted that barring some major international changes of a catastrophic scifi nature the wts is going to exist in some shape or form for the next hundred years and probably more, what progress on the "apostate" front would you personally consider a success?.
would you simply be happy to have all of your blood relatives out?.
Brother Dan: Ray Franz was awesome!! Unfortunately, JW's are banned from reading anything he has to say. What I meant was a GB member coming out at an assembly and telling people in person - an ultimate new light announcement. But . . . it is only a dream! Oh well, one at a time I guess.
