i have to post this but remember the book study went a long time ago.
it's still good comments though.. .
after all, they are free from the false religions of christendom they are told, free from holidays of all types, free from their non-jw relatives, free from anything and everything that does not involve working for the watchtower society!
The truth sets you free from the obligation to think for yourself. It sets you free from your obligation to be a force for good in humanity, it frees you from making the most of your talents. Worst of all it frees you from compassion.
Nugget is spot on! Couldn't have put it better myself!!
just as the title says.. .
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bw1dfohdkao&feature=related.
peace,.
I agree, what a cutie!!
I think I've got that magazine in a box somewhere, I must dig it out. Mom always leaves the latest mags behind when she comes to visit and I keep them for research .
The blatant double standards regarding rules that apply to JWs as apposed to other religions is breathtaking!!
I can remember laughing to myself when I first that picture of a poor JW sister looking so down and unhappy and thinking exactly the same things Heaven said! The weight lifted off my shoulders the day I walked out of the KH for the last time and started to actually enjoy life!
the april wt is out, get it while you can.
what caught my attention was the first article.
some quotes:.
The craziest thing is that if any JW was told about a religion with a leader who wrote to his congregations regularly from his ivory tower with instructions to obey his interpretation of the bible without question, never to question his decisions, never to do personal research, think or reason things out for themselves or use their own judgment but to be totally subservient to him at all times, there would be no doubt in the average JW's mind that this was a cult and its leader was a dangerous control freak.
Yet these are the people who hang on every word uttered by the 'faithful and discreet slave' to be obeyed at all times on fear of death, even if their interpretation of some of the bible scriptures seems a bit dodgy at the very least.
Who do they think the faithful and discreet slave is? How do they receive this divine spiritual guidance directly from Jehovah himself? Does the 'faithful and discreet slave / GB' receive God's instructions whilst in a trance sitting round the board table at HQ on a Tuesday afternoon (or whenever it is they meet)? Does it come to them individually in dreams during the night which they then discuss round the board table? I am intrigued to know how JWs think it happens, if they can allow themselves to think that deeply about it of course! It was questions like these that caused me to start fading many many years ago.
we've all seen jw apologists come on here (or very confused jws'/jw wannabes) bellyaching about how misleading the name of this forum is.
it suddenly occurred to me - shouldn't that actually be a red flag for them?
the very organization that claims to be "his witnesses" and that it is the only religion out there sanctifying the name of jehovah (ergo, they are the "truth") - uses the watchtower as their homepage name.
You would think that a "spirit-directed" organization would have had the foresight to name itself after exactly who they claim to be
My thoughts exactly.
Simon used the .com since he started the website in 2000 and I could be wrong but that might pre-date the WTS' entry to the internet.
He got em first. He gets to keep them
Yes, and as MidwichCuckoo said, you wonder why God would allow his "spirit directed" organisation to be beaten to the post by an "apostate" website where his name was concerned.
Speaks volumes don't it!!
my son wants to say hi to everyone on the forum.
as one of the main drivers to us exiting the cult he is very excited about never going to a meeting again.. if i knew how to load pictures i would let you see his plan for christmas lights next year.
apparently we are having a sleigh with reigndeers.
Hi little cantleave
Isn't it great to know you can now look forward to Christmas and Birthdays and go to ALL the parties that you want to!!!!!
Whoopeeee!!!!!
My own son was 7 when he had his first Christmas. He was so excited! I have still got the decorations he made for the tree and also a chain of bells he bought with his own pocket money. They have pride of place on the Christmas tree every year, even though he is in his 20s now!
You will have so many wonderful memories to look back on when you are older.
With happy thoughts,
Ambersun xxx
whos not told docs about not wanting one and whos kept quiet and said they would if they needed it,.
who beleives the jws on the blood isuse and who thinks its taken out of context,.
what is the for it proof with out a dout, and what is the against not having one,.
I have not had one personally but a few years ago I talked another close ex JW relative into having one after a difficult child birth. Although she was no longer a JW at that time she was absolutely terified of the consequences of having a transfusion, mainly of upsetting JW relatives and she was in a state of panic. I calmed her and persuaded her that it was more important for her to be around for her lovely new baby and that the JW relatives would never know anything about it unless someone told them. Me and her husband between us talked her into it. I sat by her bedside and watched her skin change from a deathly greyish white to a healthy pink as the transfusion started to take effect. She was up and about within a couple of days and soon recovered enough to care for her lovely little baby. If anyone is to blame for her having a transfusion it is me for talking her into it, and I would do it again in a heartbeat.
I agree serein, no one should be put in that situation, especially new mothers with tiny new lives to care for. Your babies came first which is only right!
My love and best wishes to you and your babies.
i'm a californian, but a good friend in london just texted me saying there's a blitz of about 50 jehovah's witnesses in croydon right outside of where she's eating loaded up with watchtowers and setting up a stall and a speaker with a megaphone.
she also says that some of them are women in wheelchairs and that they're rolling in front of passers by and blocking them when they try to ignore them.
she says all of the pedestrians are telling them to fuck off and leave them alone because they're not interested in a cult, haha.. is this something new that the society is encouraging over there (or even more scary, everywhere?
First of all, welcome to the board activeJW
I tend to agree with you, apart from it being highly unlikely to find such a large number of JWs out doing street witnessing, the manner in which they were going about it (especially blocking people's right of way) is not the WTS way of preaching, at all. If, indeed, these were JWs, or people posing as JWs, then I think the GB would want to know about it!
It is quite a mystery. I wonder who those people were??!
from me, to you all....... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hn8ckwdosje.
Oh exwhyzee, thank you for this lovely thread. It has warmed the cockles of my heart.
{{{{{{HUGS}}}}}} to everyone on this thread and those yet to join in!!
what kind of tea do you drink?
what is your favourite way to drink it?
personally, i've never even tried coffee.
I am drinking a steaming mug of good strong Yorkshire Tea with milk and one sweetener.
Delicious!!
Welcome Molly1!
Maybe, like me, you are not sure why you have become an athiest, but are one never the less?
When I realised 'The Truth' had no truth in it whatsoever, my bubble burst and it was like a young child discovering that Santa does not exist.
Some ex JWs turn to other faiths when they leave, but I just switched off altogether. In some ways I envy people with a strong faith, whatever religion they belong to. However, like Black Sheep I can't help feeling that the bible is no more than a collection of books written by a bunch of men in the middle east a very long time ago. There were people living all over the world at that time, why would God be so obsessed with the middle east and ignore everyone else? What was the point of all the other continents and the people living on them when God was only interested in one geographical region? It just doesn't make sense to me.
Debator has a point though, it is probably wrong to blame an Organisation for the fact that I no longer believe in God.
