You could be right Fernando. We haven't had one, but we've recently moved so I don't think the local congregation are aware there are ex JWs living here - yet
ambersun
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Well... I got my 'invite'
by Jim_TX inas most know, it's that time of the year when the jws go out 'in force' and bang on doors trying to leave their litter-ature for the memorial - aka 'memorial invite'.. this morning (saturday), i was at the local coffee shop - which is normal for me.
my wife was at home chilling on the sofa, in her nightie.. i got a text message around 9:30-ish saying that jws had been at our house.. when i got home, my wife said she was sitting on the sofa when she heard a light 'tap tap' on the door.
we have a doorbell.
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Well... I got my 'invite'
by Jim_TX inas most know, it's that time of the year when the jws go out 'in force' and bang on doors trying to leave their litter-ature for the memorial - aka 'memorial invite'.. this morning (saturday), i was at the local coffee shop - which is normal for me.
my wife was at home chilling on the sofa, in her nightie.. i got a text message around 9:30-ish saying that jws had been at our house.. when i got home, my wife said she was sitting on the sofa when she heard a light 'tap tap' on the door.
we have a doorbell.
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ambersun
((((((Just Lois))))))
I really feel for you reading your post. Nobody could possibly understand unless they have been through it themselves, and it must be especially tough for you having been a JW for so many years. Your emotions must have been all over the place when your friend, a member of a much loved family who you obviously miss very much, suddenly appeared on your doorstep with an invite to the memorial. I am not surprised you felt the pull back, and of course this is exactly what the GB count on happening.
Believe me, if I could beam myself across the ocean and give you a real hug I would. I really, really would. You are a lovely lady and I sincerely hope you get your wish and help your friend and his family to open their eyes one day as you have done.
Take care of yourself Lois
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New magazine cover from the religion that calls former believers "mentally diseased"....
by cedars inapparently "prejudice" applies only to racial equality and has nothing to do with diverse sexual orientation or religious beliefs.
it's news to me, but that's the only way i can explain this latest cover from the society.. http://download.jw.org/files/media_magazines/86/wp_e_20130601.pdf.
cedars.
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ambersun
Right, so the WTS have published their amazing picture of a previously unheard of scenario - multi racial mechanics working and laughing together as equals.
Do you think we should break it to them gently that an even more shocking scenario exists? That of multi racial men and WOMEN mechanics working and laughing together as equals??!
Yes, shocking as this may seem, there are actually FEMALE car mechanics of all colours and races who are currently working alongside men as equals!!!!
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New magazine cover from the religion that calls former believers "mentally diseased"....
by cedars inapparently "prejudice" applies only to racial equality and has nothing to do with diverse sexual orientation or religious beliefs.
it's news to me, but that's the only way i can explain this latest cover from the society.. http://download.jw.org/files/media_magazines/86/wp_e_20130601.pdf.
cedars.
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ambersun
Lol at punkofnice and cedars
Nowwhat? you took the words right out of my mouth. Showing a group of guys of mixed races and colours working and laughing together as though it is something really unusual and remarkable.
I mean, come on WT, what century do you think we are living in?
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Goodbye the truth...
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ambersun
I boxed all my books and mags up years ago and took them round to my JW relatives to do with as they pleased. Since being on JWN I actually wish I had kept some for research purposes but I don't know how to ask for them back without telling them what I want them for.
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How do I as a future "Therapist" help ex-jws that won't move on from the WT?
by booker-t ini am halfway through my master's program in psychology/sociology and plan on being a therapist/sounselor.
i left jw's in 1988 and i have never looked back.
i enjoy my life so much after getting my aa degree, then my ba degree, and now i will soon get my ma degree.
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ambersun
Sorry, but there is no way I would want to consult a therapist who asked how they can help people who "won't move on".
To me it is the same as a doctor asking a patient with severe depression why they don't just pull themselves together and stop being such a wimp.
Some people have been so emotionally damaged by their treatment at the hands of the WTS that they simply can't toughen up and move on as easily as you obviously think they should do.
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Could this be accurate?
by NeverKnew inis the information on this webpage* regarding the socioeconomic conditions of jws a fair connection to the all too familiar wts quote of 1969?
does the report's statistics appear to be plausible given your personal observations?
*even though many others have copied and pasted the article (including the individual who created the page hyperlinked above), i'm apprehensive about doing so for copyright reasons.
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ambersun
I can remember reading that article for the first time back in 1969 and the affect it had on my family and the congregation as a whole. The sense of urgency was so potent, with everyone whipped up into a combination of great excitement and fear over events that were to come. These were the words of Jehovah's representatives on earth so MUST be right! Woe betide us if we were young, able bodied and not out knocking doors full time peddling WT literature when armageddon came!!
It is hard to believe they actually got away with stealing our lives the way they did, not to mention the intense disappointment and distress caused to thousands when the years passed and nothing happened, and money they had thought would last them until the end of the system ran out. Many of us young ones who were told we would never complete our education in this system are now pensioners.
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JW women in critical condition after being attacked by pit bull while out in service
by JimmyPage inhttp://www.tulsaworld.com/news/article.aspx?subjectid=11&articleid=20130319_11_0_twowom831238.
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ambersun
*** How Angels Can Help You ***
Do angels care for people and protect them? The apostle Paul asked: “Are they [angels] not all spirits for public service, sent forth to minister for those who are going to inherit salvation?” (Hebrews 1:14) Clearly, the answer to Paul’s question is yes.w98 11/15 p. 6
The angels "sent forth to minister" to those poor women, mauled within an inch of their lives, must have been on a coffee break at the time then, more's the pity. Thank goodness one of Satan's worldly people happened to be around with his shotgun to save the day instead.
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JW women in critical condition after being attacked by pit bull while out in service
by JimmyPage inhttp://www.tulsaworld.com/news/article.aspx?subjectid=11&articleid=20130319_11_0_twowom831238.
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ambersun
Levi Moore, an elder at the Kingdom Hall of Jehovah’s Witnesses at 2626 N. Lewis Ave., said the women were volunteers who walked door-to-door ministering and distributing religious literature.
So there is no doubt they were JWs who were attacked. I like the way the word "volunteers" was stated by this elder, suggesting there was no pressure put on them to do this work, and therefore the WTS had no responsibility for their actions .
I remember when I was a pioneer, we were told to ignore "Do Not Trespass" and "No Canvassing" signs as they "didn't apply to us" . I experienced quite a number of close calls myself! I had my ankle bitten by a dog on one occasion, fortunately I had a huge brother working with me at the time who "saved" me. There were many times when the householder would be holding on to the collars of huge snarling dogs while we talked on the doorstep. I dread to think what would have happened if the dog had slipped its collar or the owner had let go their grip!!
There were loads of occasions when the teenage version of me was alone at the doors due to nobody being available to accompany me, or with another teenage pioneer sister, talking to dodgy looking men in various states of dress (or rather undress). One elderly man opened the door totally naked . But not to worry, Jehovah was watching over us so all was well .
It actually amazes me that we don't hear of more tragedies like this happening. What I would like to know is, what will happen if and when those poor women recover and find they are too traumatised to go door knocking any more? Will they be severely reprimanded by the BOE and warned of impending Annihilation by Jah at armageddon for refusing to go out in service doing this "voluntary" work? I wouldn't put it past them!
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Are we all bitter?
by LouBelle ini posted a link on fb that lead to a topic here.
i then had one of my 'friends' start having a go about how bitter everyone is here....fact he said.
(he used to be a jw elder but left a while back, not sure why he left or if he has even researched the faith since leaving) the more i tried to reason with him that actually it is a support forum, the more he lashed out that everyone here bad mouths the jw's and only attack the jw's.
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ambersun
He gave me Nelson Mandela as a shining example - Mandela spent 27 years in prison as a terrorist - he was put there because he rose up against those that would oppress him.
Fair enough. Nobody could dispute that, but is it a fair comparison? Mandela fought for what he passionately believed in and he has never wavered from that belief.
It is completely different to waking up to the TTATT, that your life has been a lie. A con. To become conscious of the fact that you have been thoroughly deceived by a cult skilled in brainwashing techniques to fill your head with false hopes and dreams in order to use you as free labour for their own ends, regardless of the consequences.
How many victims of con artists are seen to just forgive and move on, putting it down to life's experience without a trace of bitterness? Not many I would imagine!