Posts by ambersun

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WT comment 'people who leave the org who seem happy are fooled by satan?!?'

by darth frosty in

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this was a comment made at the past wt study (6/27).

from what i know the wt from sunday had something to do with christ (just read title of blondies comments.

so what was the purpose of such a comment?

ambersun

It's laughable really, isn't it. The world outside the Organisation is such a terrible place under the influence of Satan and devoid of God's spirit. How could any JW possibly be happy if they have left the 'Truth' to go and live in such a dark and dismal environment?

All us ex JWs who no longer have the GB telling us what to do every day are in a living hell of chaos and misery, devoid of all hope as we hurtle towards this elusive Armageddon which is still sooooooo close.

The problem is, we don't realise all this is happening because - horror of horrors - we are all being fooled by Satan into believing we are actually living happy, contented, well adjusted and fulfilled lives on our own terms and thinking for ourselves instead of being little robots pandering to the whims of the GB.

Yes, we are all being tricked into believing we are happy. Let's all hurry back to the Borg quickly before it is too late

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Why has God allowed this to go on for so long

by watersprout in

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why has god allowed this system to go on for soo long?

he's god he doesn't need to prove anything to anyone!

why have the billions that have lived on this earth had to suffer for what two people did in eden?.

ambersun

A god of love could NOT sit by and 'allow' suffering any more than you could!

This has always bugged me, how a loving God could sit back and watch people living miserable, painful existences and being murdered in unspeakably horrific manners generation after generation after generation without stepping in and saying "enough!"

If we knew any of our children were doing unspeakable things to other children we would step in and do something about it immediately.

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What books, songs, artists, movies, etc were banned in your JW home?

by serenitynow! in

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my mother was very strict about entertainment.

in school i was doing a project about teen suicide and had checked out some books on suicide and abortion.

i had alot of explaining to do for that.

ambersun

All pop music was banned in our house for being demonic - no exceptions.

Most films. Only old black and white pre WWII films and musicals were deemed suitable and safe to watch without censor.

Toby jugs, horse brasses, those little troll dolls (pre Smurf days).

In more recent years, Soap operas (like Coronation Street).

Anything even remotely connected with spiritism or magic - the list is endless.

Anything even remotely connected with 'false religiion' - again, the list is endless.

Just like serenitynow's Mum, my Mom has also mellowed a lot over the years and my teenage niece is allowed to listen to pop music and watch TV and films in Mom's living room with no interference. She still won't let me watch Coronation Street when I'm visiting though

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The Governing Body and the Sept 15, 2010 WT

by Ultimate Reality in

there have been a few threads on this magazine already.

but i cannot recall a wt that has so many references to the gb and its authority throughout the articles as this one.

the grip of authority and control is tightening.

ambersun

Thus, what is taught is not from men but from Jehovah.—Isa. 54:13. - page 13

I don't know what is more scary - the thought that 8 men sitting in Watchtower HQ are so brainwashed themselves that they actually, quite possibly believe all their plans and schemes are put in their heads directly by God to be obeyed by the masses, relieving them of every last shred of concience about the affects they are having on the lives of the R&F, or that the R&F absorb every last crumb of 'new light' and act in complete obedience en masse like a load of Stepford Wives without putting their brains into gear and realising how far-fetched or unlikely it all is!

Also, how can JWs reason that it is wrong for Catholics to glorify the Pope as being (in their eyes) God's representative on earth, being a mere mortal man, but it is OK for JWs to glorify 8 men in Watchtower HQ for the same reason! Let's face it, if they are to be obeyed unconditionally, with everyone hanging on their every word, what is the difference?????

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Most Ridiculous Thing You've Ever Been Counseled On

by MrFreeze in

i'm sure topics like this have already come up but they tend to get hilarious with the absolute absurdity that goes on in the kh.

i was once counseled for not shaving after two days.

i was also counseled by a sister for eating lucky charms cereal.

ambersun

Allowing my new born baby to make baby noises while brothers were trying to concentrate on the meeting. Even though I always sat right at the back of the hall, everytime he made a little sound the whole congregation would turn round and glare at me and one of the brothers would guide me and baby outside to sit in the book room with no sound system. Oh, happy days! That was such a lovely congregation, full of Christian love. How I miss them all !!!!!

A few years later at an Assembly, my husband was councelled for allowing our little boy to play quietly on the floor at our feet with a toy instead of sitting bolt upright in his chair for hours on end. My husband told the brother in question what he thought of the suggestion and we started fading very soon after that. Our now grown up son is eternally grateful!!!

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JWs pretended to be someone else at my door.

by myusername in

this is probably in the wrong section, but i couldn't decide where to put it.

i was raised a jw and i still suffer effects from that kind of upbringing.. anyway, they said they were local community volunteers and they wanted to give me something related to the community.

i didn't open the door but they put a jw tract through it.. i don't think it's right to be so devious about recruitment.

ambersun

Ooooh, sorry djeggnog, I didn't spot it was your first post. A big welcome to you too!!

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JWs pretended to be someone else at my door.

by myusername in

this is probably in the wrong section, but i couldn't decide where to put it.

i was raised a jw and i still suffer effects from that kind of upbringing.. anyway, they said they were local community volunteers and they wanted to give me something related to the community.

i didn't open the door but they put a jw tract through it.. i don't think it's right to be so devious about recruitment.

ambersun

Welcome myusername! I am fairly new myself and I hope you find the site as enjoyable, helpful and informative as I am finding it!

I totally agree, I think it is deceiptful and wrong for JWs to hide their identities when out in the preaching work. It always made me feel uncomfortable when I was a JW even though I realised it was usually the only way to trap people into entering any sort of discussion with us.

I usually blurted out the fact I was one of Jehovah's Witnesses as soon as the householder opened the door, and it was amazing how fast I could cover the territory on cold, wet, windy days

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Generation 'New Light' is Actually Working

by zoiks in

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as ridiculous as it seems to me and most of you, the infamous 'generation' update has every jw that i know in a tizzy.

they're all worked up about how 'exciting' it all is.

i just received a letter from my mom (she only communicates through letters now), and she brought it up - how they carefully explained it at the convention, and how it shows that we are so close to the end.. unbelievable.

ambersun

For the rank and file it doesn't matter anymore what the GB says. They have learn to accept blindly whatever comes out from Brooklyn...if the GB changes the 'light' next month still JW's they will be happy with the new explanation...

I totally agree with you, JustHuman14. I bet if any one of us had suggested to the rank and file ten years ago what 2010's 'new light' would be, we would have been either laughed at or told to stop making apostate remarks designed to stumble the brothers. Yet the GB can say almost anything and the masses will lap it all up joyfully without question! Even to suggest ten years ago that this old system would still be here in 2010 would be an apostate thought as we all know that to the average JW armageddon is, and always has been, just three years away!!

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I'm glad my children don't have to grow up being afraid of cupcakes

by Ilovebirthdays in

yesterday, i brought a batch of cupcakes to my son's school.

in passing them out, i started to give one to one of the children, who was a jw.

he immediately started freaking out and screaming "no thank you" over and over.

ambersun

I am so glad me and Hubby completed our fading when our children were still young enough to experience at least part of a normal childhood. Having gone through it all ourselves we knew only too well what they were going through. I can remember so clearly the huge smiles of relief on the teachers' faces when I went into our son's school and told them we were no longer JWs and that from now on he was free to join in all activities. We received a lot of support from the teachers as many of them knew how difficult it was for us.

Our son's class teacher told me some heartbreaking stories of what some JW children had to endure, including the distress they experienced whenever a child in the class had a birthday. She wondered if their parents really understood the pressures such young children were under.

She also told me a tragic tale of a previous year when two 6/7 year old JW children had to sit in the corner of the classroom watching all their classmates enjoying the Christmas party because their parents forgot to come and fetch them before the party started! The teacher felt awful but there was nowhere else for them to go without being under supervision and they were too young to be left in a room on their own. Therefore, not only were they forced to watch the others having fun but I can imagine they would also be terrified that somehow they were involved in the pagan activities by being in the same room, wondering if Jehovah would punish them for it. Goodness only knows what lasting affect this would have on the poor little kiddies.

The GB has a lot to answer for!!!!!!

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I think its a good thing nobody gets or even notices the generation change "new light"

by cognac in

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no matter what the society does to try to attempt to fix this generation debacle, there is no way they can ever get it in jwa minds that the end will come past 2014.. nobody even gets or understands the change.

nobody cares.

generation will always mean to them up to 100 years!

ambersun

Black Sheep thanks for the welcome and yes, it sounds like our families are probably very much alike. Lovely smiling people devoting their lives to obeying every passing whim of the GB with their minds full of thoughts of paradise.

Heartofaboy, regarding elderly people my own mother in law was totally thrown off balance when her husband died in the '80s and she realised how old they had got with no signs of armageddon. I remember her saying to me that if armageddon didn't come soon it would be the biggest con of the century. However, she somehow managed to overcome these feelings (cognitive dissonance?) and died of old age last year having attended her last meeting the previous Sunday.

Thanks for that info Blondie, it explains a lot!