Welcome Chris!
It is exciting to join the group. It's also exciting to start a new life with out all the control.
Enjoy yourself and try not to worry too much, things have a way of working out for the best.
i just wanted to introduce myself.
my name is chris and i'm on my way out of the only "society" i've known.. i was raised a witness and have been a ministerial servant for a while now.
i recently notified the elder body that i will be stepping down and it will soon be official.
Welcome Chris!
It is exciting to join the group. It's also exciting to start a new life with out all the control.
Enjoy yourself and try not to worry too much, things have a way of working out for the best.
this was sent to me this morning,.
thanks jake !.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tovqh0mlolq.
When we studied we were told that the ones who sold their homes and property we running ahead of the org. and not waiting on Jehovah. We were also told that our kids would probably never make it to school age, the end was that close.
That was in 1983.
Hmmmm
Now that our kids are in their twenties I'm glad we didn't listen to the counsel about higher education, and encouraged them to get their degrees.
what was your reputation?
were you viewed as "mature", "worldly", or "exemplary"?
?.
I guess I was not mature since I was never an MS, Elder , or pioneer.
Not exemplary since my kids went to college, and my hours sucked. And not being exemplary was the reason I was not allowed to even run a mic like the little kids.
Not worldly, never did anything really wrong and made almost all the meetings.
So I guess I don't know what I was. Maybe a drone.
celebrate good times,come on!
(let's celebrate).
celebrate good times, come on!
Awesome!
It must feel wonderful.
Good for you!
a very solemn warning!.
how many people today really understand the bible?
would we believe that, some or any, for that matter, of the mainline religious leader's of christendom's great system of religion, understand the bible well enough to teach it to their flock's?
I will obey
moshe- My preaching never produced results. I never wanted return visits or studies. I worked six days a week and had no time for that which just added to the guilt trip.
Mrs Thor had some studies over the years but no one ever came in to the "truth". We were in our last hall for twenty two years and we saw maybe two people come in from the territory so no one was having results. I always felt sorry for the pioneers wasting all their time out in service.
I really don't know what "the friends" think about us. I'm sure they wonder what happened because we appeared to be a steady on family. When ever we run into the "friends" its just brief pleasantries and that's it. Its really strange that they don't bring anything up about us being gone. But no one is inviting us over for dinner or anything either.
Last week when I came to work I found two magazines and an invitation on the ground in front of the door. The invitation had a note on it saying they missed us and to come visit sometime. This was from an old friend in a different cong. Funny thing is, we have not heard from this couple in years and they could call or come in any time, but decided to come by when they knew we were closed.
This is one problem we have. We have a small retail business so they can contact us any time and there isn't much we can do about it.
As far as them thinking we still feel its the "truth", I think our absence would show what we think. If we were just weak we would come once in a while or at least to the memorial, which we have missed for three years now. We have not set foot in a kingdom hall for almost three years and it makes me feel ill to even think about it.
We are non confrontational people and we are glad to have them just leave us alone.
Mrs & Mrs Thor
ive been lurking here for the past couple of months since i started researching the organization.
i dont have many people to talk to and its been a saving grace to read your posts.. i dont really know where to start so here i go.
its been a long journey getting here and it looks as if i still have a long ways to go to get somewhere healthy, stable and strong.
Dear Hadit
Hello and welcome from us newcomers as well!
You made a good choice joining this forum. Good for you that it took months rather than years like it did for us.
We are so sorry for your situation, we hope it gets better very soon!
Hang in there!
Mr & Mrs Thor
Thanks again for the wonderful welcome!!
A few of you asked what prompted us to leave the organization.
Well, we realize that there really isn't just one quick answer to that question. It was series of things over a period of time.
The early years went pretty well, we were in three congregations in the same metro area over the years so we felt like we had some good friends and felt loved and welcome. We still have good feelings in our hearts for some of our old friends. But we now realize that they were conditional friendships. Since they are under the control of the borg.
As time went on and our lives became busier with kids and our business, my hours dwindled. I was punished ("encouraged") by having all of my "privileges" slowly taken away.
We started feeling less a part of things and felt a lack of appreciation and respect from the elders. They seemed to do everything they could to make us feel unwelcome and never good enough.
We listened for years to the talks that say its your fault if you have problems or doubts but we hung on thinking it would work out, and we wanted to do what was right.
As our kids got older, their interest in the "truth" wained, but out of respect for us they hung in as well. Our kids are wonderful and respectful people!
Toward the end of it all, the elders with their man made rules tried to interfere in our family life, which should not have been any of their business.
In our last lecture from the elders we realized there is no reasoning with these men, and they definitely do not want to know how we think or feel.
So we decided to fade which lasted one more meeting.
A few other things that didn't sit well with us over the years were, Control of every aspect of our lives, disfellowshipping, blood (I would never have let my loved ones die for lack of blood), self righteous attitudes, and how the Org. needed to know or thought they knew everything, etc, etc.
As for how we have been treated since.
The elders came by a couple times to straighten out any misunderstandings, or to see if they could encourage us. Also we had one family that our kids were close to try to encourage us to come back. We have had a couple invitations stuck in our door as well. But over all we have been left alone which is fine with us. They know we aren't causing any trouble with anyone.
We occasionally run into witnesses at a store or our business and everything seems to go fine.
Sorry this went on and on, but like I said its not a quick answer
Mr & Mrs Thor
Thanks to all of you! We are excited to be in contact with so many friendly "WORDLY " people. Ha Ha
Mr & Mrs Thor
My wife and I have been lurking here for almost three years now and finally decided to join!
We were in the borg for over twenty years. We came in together as a couple and we left all together as a family of four. Thank goodness! It has been about three years now and we have been very happy with our decision.
We are not Df'd and did not DA we just quit one day and never went back. Actually we intended to fade slowly but could not stand it any longer.
No big dramatic story here, although we will post more details later.
We have appreciated this site and others as it has helped us through a bit of a strange time. You all are our support group since at 52 & 50 years old we find our selves with very few friends outside of family.
We were the only ones in our extended family that became witnesses and thank goodness we never cut them off and they all accept us and love us. Our kids and their significant others hang out with us alot and are our best friends. We are so thankful that they forgive us for raising them as witnesses and still love us. We are trying to make it up to them.
Any way thats all for now, just wanted to say hi to you all!