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Outcome - Banned in Russia - Final

by OrphanCrow in

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i just watched the live feed from the russian court room and followed the updates on the russian exjw forum.. just waiting for confirmation from other sources...but, it looks like the final (and expected) result is:.

banned.

which means that the wts property in russia now belongs to the russian state..

intropist

http://tass.com/world/942396

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Outcome - Banned in Russia - Final

by OrphanCrow in

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i just watched the live feed from the russian court room and followed the updates on the russian exjw forum.. just waiting for confirmation from other sources...but, it looks like the final (and expected) result is:.

banned.

which means that the wts property in russia now belongs to the russian state..

intropist

https://russian.rt.com/russia/news/380876-zapretili-svidetelei-iegovy

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JWs, An American Religion, in dress, in language, etc., by Joel Elliot

by compound complex in

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a fascinating article, with color-saturated imagery.

requested that he not be quoted, so there are no snippets here, just a link:.

https://web.archive.org/web/20070612092219/http://www.unc.edu/~elliott/icon.html.

intropist

Wow, thanks for the good anastasia!

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Can we support Russian government's ban?

by intropist in

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글쓴이: 류비 / 시간: 목, 03/30/2017 - 14:48. .

hi, i want to leave my personal opinion on the matter of russian government's banning on the activity of jehovah's witnesses in their territory.

i think it's more or less important because bearing a certain opinion is related with the quality of life.

intropist

As a matter of fact, I was the very extremist since I, in my early 20's, decided to be imprisoned in jail for 3 years as a Conscientious Objector of JW which was definitely not conscientious but religious in nature .

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Can we support Russian government's ban?

by intropist in

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글쓴이: 류비 / 시간: 목, 03/30/2017 - 14:48. .

hi, i want to leave my personal opinion on the matter of russian government's banning on the activity of jehovah's witnesses in their territory.

i think it's more or less important because bearing a certain opinion is related with the quality of life.

intropist

Why not (Acts 5:38~39)?

I'm going to do as it said :

38 So under the present circumstances, I say to you, do not meddle with these men, but let them alone. For if this scheme or this work is from men, it will be overthrown; 39 but if it is from God, you will not be able to overthrow them.+

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JW's And Their Education Level

by Yesu Kristo Bwana Wangu in

i was thinking about this.... in my congregation, i was literally the only one with universitary education, out of a cong from around 110 people.... and we're very close to a very big university, which makes it even weirder.. on the other hand... sooo many here with their own business, mostly small cleaning businesses.

cleaning windows, or cleaning somewhere else... painters.... all have jobs that do not require any education level, cos they never had a decent education.. how is the composition of the jw people/congs that you know about?.

how many painters... cleaners... compared to people with jobs that require higher education?.

intropist

Today, I'm enjoying this film : "Accepted, 2006"

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0384793/

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Can we support Russian government's ban?

by intropist in

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글쓴이: 류비 / 시간: 목, 03/30/2017 - 14:48. .

hi, i want to leave my personal opinion on the matter of russian government's banning on the activity of jehovah's witnesses in their territory.

i think it's more or less important because bearing a certain opinion is related with the quality of life.

intropist

Can we support Russian government's ban?

글쓴이: 류비 / 시간: 목, 03/30/2017 - 14:48

Hi,

I want to leave my personal opinion on the matter of Russian government's banning on the activity of Jehovah's witnesses in their territory. I think it's more or less important because bearing a certain opinion is related with the quality of life. Yes, What you think is what you are. And because we, ex-Jehovah's witnesses are suffering from unrighteousness and injustice done by this bad organization. At any rate, I want to have right thinking.

Can we support Russian government's ban?

If this ban is not based on justice, as for the organization like JW, it might give them good motivation, the motivation to overcome worldly persecutions. Out of their hearts, will governing body really worry about the welfare of Russian Brothers and sisters? I guess those top international leaders will worry more about the assets like kingdom halls or bethel's real estates.

According to Reuters, 3 points were picked by Russia for labeling Jehovah's witnesses as Extremists. it reads:Authorities have put several of its publications on a list of banned extremist literature, and prosecutors have long cast it as an organization that destroys families, fosters hatred and threatens lives.

Yes They do! They are really bad.

However, I have a guess that there is Russian Orthodox Church behind the scene. An article of BBC mentioned one quote from a Watchtower publication. The BBC article reads : One quotes the novelist Leo Tolstoy, describing the doctrine of the Russian Orthodox Church as superstition and sorcery. I guess this kind of viewpoints of JW might provoke the Russian church.

But, This situation is not about religious judgment but legal one, judicial one. Our rightful judgment that JW.ORG should perish in this world is one thing, but judicially judging in that way is another. Law does not judge our thinking but our behavior.

What is Russian interpreted definition of Extremist? Generally, terrorism, violent trouble making, for example, those of IS are regarded as basis of Extremists. This time, Russian authorities omit that aspect from their definition and they claim witnesses are Extremists because they have foster hatred toward other religions and they claim they are the only one true religion.

Yes, Their claim is really absurd. But can we just illegalize it without its behavioral offenses? If we think of the freedom of press and thinking, it's really a different story.

We ex-Jehovah's witnesses are suffering from that religion's evil policies. Some friends are not able to meet their families. Their calls are ignored, even textings. What inhumane, illogical, unjust are the organization's policies only to protect it and grow it. However, if Russian government is using that kind of inhumane, illogical, unjust policies, can we support it?

No matter how much we hated the JW organization, we could not support Nazi's persecution toward it.

As for this time's Russian case, I think we can't support its ban.

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Did you have a favorite pub . . .

by compound complex in

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publication, that is?.

i just found all scripture is inspired of god and beneficial in storage.

i enjoyed studying it, as well as make sure of all things, hold fast to what is fine.. our thinking has changed, of course, but, back then, did you have a wt publication you especially liked?.