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  From Richard Dawkins' Preface to "The God Delusion"

  by AK - Jeff in

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  http://www.infoamerica.org/documentos_pdf/dawkins10.pdf.

  the word delusion in my title has disquieted some psychiatrists who regard it as a technical term, not to be bandied about.

  three of them wrote to me to propose a special technical term for religious delusion: relusion.. .

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  SweetBabyCheezits

  Love that Pirsig quote. Zen is top on my list of books to read.

  delusion...a persistent false belief held in the face of strong contradictory evidence...

  IMO, religious delusion makes a good parallel to non-lucid dreaming (if only because I had a lucid dream last night).

  In my dreams, nothing makes much sense. My house looks nothing like my house, my wife may not be my wife, and somehow I can fly! All of these things contradict what I know to be real. It should be a clear sign that I'm dreaming but my mind still perceives it as reality. My mind wants it to be real, right? And usually my nervous system just accepts whatever it's presented in that REM state. To me, it's similar to those who accept a holy book at face value from an early age.

  But occasionally I become lucid when I realize something's really not right... and manage to recognize the delusion, convincing myself I'm just dreaming. I know that's not uncommon but I can't help but equate it to becoming aware of the God delusion and taking control of one's own life.
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  if a disfellowshipped child molester wanted to "go back "

  by looloo in

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  this man is a ex minservant who was disfellowshipped years ago for an affair with his daughters friend (he married the girl eventually ) about 5 years before he was disfellowshipped he was reprooved for child sex abuse and kept in the cong ,then went on to abuse again another jw girl (that didnt get found out about at the time .

  ) a few years after that he abused my child , a non jw in court he was only sentenced for a few "smaller " charges but got off with a lot of things concerning all 3 victims which he had denied !

  all the victims had not seen eachother in years and stories colloberated with eachother !

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  SweetBabyCheezits

  Hi, sphere. Glad to know yas.

  I have a dear friend that was molested at 8 years old by a 15 year old elders son. One of the first things the elders wanted to know, was if she "seduced" him! They just do not have any common sense!

  WTF?! That is beyond ridiculous. Sounds like those elders had their own pedophilia issues if they thought an 8 year old girl was even capable of being seductive. I have an 8 yr old daughter and if any man (or teenage boy) EVEN uses the word "seduce" in reference to my little girl, he may find himself on the barrel end of a .12 ga shotgun.

  The way they handle victims of abuse is just plain barbaric. They will try to make it out to be the victims fault. And they will toss the virctim to the curb to protect there own name every time.

  This reminds me of my parents refusal to see the Bible's immoral treatment of women and especially rape victims. I asked how they could rationalize away scriptures like Deuteronomy 22:28-29 as being just, loving, or moral in any sense. They shrugged it off and said it was not our place to judge God's righteous ways.

  I looked up the official WT rationalization on that verse and the WT of 11/15/89, p31, says, "This was a case of pressured seduction and/or fornication." Pressured seduction?! Again, WTF?! Why are we minimizing sex crimes, Watchtower?? Ohhh, we deny reality because we want to protect our precious faith in God's holy word.

  Clearly some people put their faith above EVERYTHING else and switch off their brains.

  I am, or should I say we are (I'll take the liberty of speaking for my wife), truly saddened/infuriated to hear about the cases you were involved in, sphere and looloo. The acts and perpetrators themselves are beyond heinous and anyone who fails to stand up in behalf of helpless victims, IMO, is practically an accomplice.
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  Are you interested in Bible Congruence?

  by sabastious in

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  does the bible have to agree with itself for it to have lasting value?.

  -sab.

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  SweetBabyCheezits

  In Pakistan, a little boy standing next to his father in the bookstore looked around and innocently asked, "Why don't people just read the Koran?"

  In Utah, a little boy standing next to his father in the bookstore looked around and innocently asked, "Why don't people just read the Book of Mormon?"

  In India, a little boy standing next to his father in the bookstore looked around and innocently asked, "Why don't people just read the Vedas?"

  All of these accounts were "inspired" by real events. Man, the ideas we latch onto at such a young age, eh? And chances are that each of these little boys will grow up loyal to the beliefs that were passed on to them (before they could ask critical questions).
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  Not surprisingly, the rumor mill has started...

  by SweetBabyCheezits in

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  my wife and i have not even been df'd for a week and an old friend on fb (an inactive jw who has active jw friends who used to be friends of mine) says there's a rumor going around that i'm gay.

  wow.

  really jws?

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  SweetBabyCheezits

  lol @ WB

  Sooooooo ANYway...

  In conclusion, there's no real gay rumor circulating (that I know of) ... but if it helps me not look like a complete idiot for starting this thread my mom had previously suggested that maybe I committed adultery and that was my ulterior motive. So while this thread may seem like a big dud, there's always that, uh... except that it wasn't... really a rumor. More like an accusation, or... maybe just an implication. (I should shut up. Honesty may be the best policy but it's making me look like a frickin moron right now.)

  Mods, how does one go about getting a thread deleted?
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  Not surprisingly, the rumor mill has started...

  by SweetBabyCheezits in

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  my wife and i have not even been df'd for a week and an old friend on fb (an inactive jw who has active jw friends who used to be friends of mine) says there's a rumor going around that i'm gay.

  wow.

  really jws?

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  SweetBabyCheezits

  Uhhh... you know I had thought about grabbing one of those Unfriend Finder apps that keeps tabs on all that but... didn't.

  I only had like 160-something last Sunday and I've picked up around 10 this week (mostly exJWs - thx all!) but I'm at 136.... soooo somewhere in the neighborhood of 34?

  For some reason, that doesn't sound right. Before I posted my farewell letter on FB I checked and had around 100 JW friends. Of course, there are still many JWs in my friend list. I assume most of the leftovers just don't check FB regularly.
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  Not surprisingly, the rumor mill has started...

  by SweetBabyCheezits in

  1. jw
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  my wife and i have not even been df'd for a week and an old friend on fb (an inactive jw who has active jw friends who used to be friends of mine) says there's a rumor going around that i'm gay.

  wow.

  really jws?

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  SweetBabyCheezits

  Darth, that AIDS rumor was a doozy. That's crazy!

  To counter that, we should start a rumor that you have an untreatable case of ED and always have. That would show em.
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  Not surprisingly, the rumor mill has started...

  by SweetBabyCheezits in

  1. jw
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  my wife and i have not even been df'd for a week and an old friend on fb (an inactive jw who has active jw friends who used to be friends of mine) says there's a rumor going around that i'm gay.

  wow.

  really jws?

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  SweetBabyCheezits

  So, Vamp, what's this I hear about you frequenting the local bars for sleeze? <- (btw, is this the gossip smiley?)
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  The Cigar Thread!

  by notverylikely in

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  sbc, outlaw and a few others have chatted me up about cigars, so i thought i would start a thread for us to discuss, made recommendations, talk about cigar related activies like golf, drinking, and smoking after a great meal.

  this thread is for any interest in cigars, what kind you like, don't like, questions, answers, whatever.

  anything related to cigars and not related to jws or religion is up for discussion.

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  SweetBabyCheezits

  Yeah, FHN, try something like Backwoods. I say that, not because I'm any authority, but because one day I was mowing my yard and smelled one of the Honey cigars being smoked by my neighbor next door.... it was amazing. It was like... like a bakery in your nose. Well, maybe that's a poor simile. But suffice to say it smelled great.

  Darth, NVL and Sooner, I forgot to mention I bought some of those and tried one along with the Quorum on D-day. It tasted and smelled good but I couldn't avoid loose tobacco getting in my mouth. Maybe it was that particular cigar?
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  Not surprisingly, the rumor mill has started...

  by SweetBabyCheezits in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  my wife and i have not even been df'd for a week and an old friend on fb (an inactive jw who has active jw friends who used to be friends of mine) says there's a rumor going around that i'm gay.

  wow.

  really jws?

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  SweetBabyCheezits

  I've already admitted that my profile pic doesn't reflect my true ugliness. I've got a gnarly massive right ear and the top of my head goes on for miles. In real life, I look like Sloth from Goonies.

  VAGetarian, CJ, quit playin!
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  Not surprisingly, the rumor mill has started...

  by SweetBabyCheezits in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  my wife and i have not even been df'd for a week and an old friend on fb (an inactive jw who has active jw friends who used to be friends of mine) says there's a rumor going around that i'm gay.

  wow.

  really jws?

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  SweetBabyCheezits

  Ya'll are killin me here. CJ, I happen to be a strict vagetarian.

  hmmm, I wonder if that's a threadlocking term...