ah, gotcha
Back on topic... I have one cigar left over from the ones I bought for my D-day a few weeks back. It's been sealed in a plastic baggie in my kitchen since then. Is it a safe bet that it's worthless now? How would I know?
i tried, i thought i could make it work, it seemed so easy, but alas, in my project to turn a used $3 cigar box into a functional humidor i failed miserably.
i never could make the box airtight enough and allow enough air to circulate through to keep the cigars moist enough with a passive humidifier.
the humidity kept falling too low, i kept have to try to seal more edges of the box and eventually i started losing cigars.. i broke down today and bought a $40 humidor and in the space of just a few hours it is already keeping the cigars more moist and humid.. i failed.
ah, gotcha
Back on topic... I have one cigar left over from the ones I bought for my D-day a few weeks back. It's been sealed in a plastic baggie in my kitchen since then. Is it a safe bet that it's worthless now? How would I know?
i really do appreciate all the help you guys have given me in this process.
but it's time for me to leave.
it was time for me to leave the wt (at least in my mind) when it became damaging to me.
It think Dan is just doing what Jesus would do.
Oh, yeah, you mean the part where Jesus bailed on an Internet forum when his opponents exposed his flawed arguments?
Dan, I wanted to give you the benefit of a doubt but I hadn't read your other recent threads when I posted on this one earlier. Surely you realize how it must look for your departure to coincide with a thread in which your assertions on prophecy were deconstructed by a number of (IMO) exceptionally intelligent posters.... right?
Either way, I've learned yet again not to start friendships with people who will shuck human relationships for their invisible deity. That's not anger at god, I just don't have time for folks who put more value on their cherished subjective beliefs than in two-way human relationships. Life's too short.
sometimes in many conversations or debates, some people try to end it by saying "i agree to disagree".
if you have an inquisitive mind and critical thinking, are you comfortable disagreeing about factual information?
i am not referring to opinion.
Caught up? In what? Your underwear?
No, you crackwh.... uh, Vamp.
I mean I got caught up reading through the debates and Dan's subsequent departure.
revelation 4:11 - 11 you are worthy, our lord and god, .
to receive glory and honor and power, .
for you created all things, .
Why don't you start a thread listing your prophetic proofs, one by one. You could list ten of them, for instance. You can then silence the critics. Or, if they were unable to stand, you yourself would be silenced.
This was a fine idea. Too bad it ended with a total departure.
sometimes in many conversations or debates, some people try to end it by saying "i agree to disagree".
if you have an inquisitive mind and critical thinking, are you comfortable disagreeing about factual information?
i am not referring to opinion.
nevermind, i'm caught up now
satan and nvl recommended that i start this thread.
i'm not sure anyone will have interest.
but one of the things that proves to me that the bible is accurate is the prophecies that were written before the fullfillment, in detal.
So this is the thread that did him in?
i tried, i thought i could make it work, it seemed so easy, but alas, in my project to turn a used $3 cigar box into a functional humidor i failed miserably.
i never could make the box airtight enough and allow enough air to circulate through to keep the cigars moist enough with a passive humidifier.
the humidity kept falling too low, i kept have to try to seal more edges of the box and eventually i started losing cigars.. i broke down today and bought a $40 humidor and in the space of just a few hours it is already keeping the cigars more moist and humid.. i failed.
NVL, you're a fan of Rush or was that sarcasm? I didn't take you for a conservative fellow. Just curious.
sometimes in many conversations or debates, some people try to end it by saying "i agree to disagree".
if you have an inquisitive mind and critical thinking, are you comfortable disagreeing about factual information?
i am not referring to opinion.
I spent my life believing in morals and values that God gave me. I will not be sorry for following those. If you love sin and want to practice what you want, that is fine by me. But I'mnot happy in sin.
Dan, your wife called you a dirty apostate. Do you feel that's a justified accusation? No. Then why would you do something similar here with atheists?
i really do appreciate all the help you guys have given me in this process.
but it's time for me to leave.
it was time for me to leave the wt (at least in my mind) when it became damaging to me.
If I say chupacabras are angry goats will I offend you, CJ?
i really do appreciate all the help you guys have given me in this process.
but it's time for me to leave.
it was time for me to leave the wt (at least in my mind) when it became damaging to me.
Dan, I can respect your decision to leave if the arguments on here drain your happiness. Some threads get to me as well. It seems a little odd that you'd choose to drop off altogether but to each his own. Wouldn't presume to judge you for it.
I should apologize for the belligerent tone I take sometimes, although I am not sorry for sharing my views. While my goal is never to offend, it was a long road to freedom so I'll be damned if I'm gonna suppress my views on god after coming out of a group that tried to keep me from thinking for myself. What we have here is an outlet, a place to vent, a place to discuss our views freely... the antithesis of a kingdom hall. No, it isn't always positive. But it isn't always negative either.
My goal, like others, is to encourage exJWs to think freely and identify old presupposition that might cloud their view. Right or wrong, since I feel like I've gone to the trouble to release my own and, in turn, have a better perspective, I'm compelled to share that new viewpoint with others. Sometimes that might come out as sarcasm but it's certainly not anger.
I tell my daughter not to spoil other kids' Christmas by telling them the truth about Santa Claus. Why? Because they are kids and their faith in Santa isn't hurting anyone as far as I can see. But I don't believe in Yahweh or a divine Jesus. So when I see adult fundamentalists try to drive a wedge between education and evolution, or try to influence a government ban on issue that is influenced by faith in the bible, I see fit to expose the the bible as false as the other holy books. Not that you do those things personally, but to me faith in the supernatural equals superstition and that isn't harmless. Perhaps faith helps some people in some respects but I think superstitious faith slows progress for the human race in general.
These are not personal attacks anymore than your attempt to reason with a JW is a personal attack on them. Is it wrong to expose what we believe are flaws in logic? When we all sit around and take jabs at JW faith, it seems to be okay. But many believers seem to take folks like me literally. I don't mean that I actually believe Yahweh is a hateful god. Those are just examples that show the bible to be self-refuting and the god described therein does not exist. We're just trying to reason on some of the violent, unloving, and unjust accounts we've read. Again, I don't wish to offend you or any other Christians but it's hard to state my conflicting view without doing so.
Anyway, while we've disagreed on some things, I've really enjoyed our conversations nonetheless. Take care of yourself and I truly hope you're able to save your beautiful family from the WT's clutches.
Tim/SBC