Yep, we can see why, to many, it was necessary for Jesus to come and "clear" some things up in regards to the Law and such.
To be we don't have his word on rape.
So Jesus came to clarify "the Law and such" but the matter of rape didn't quite make the list? Among other crimes, I'd think rape would rank pretty high... right up there with murder and child abuse. But that's just me.
Maybe the omission should be a red flag.
we are celebrating xmas this year for the first time.
it's kinda weird because, even though we're doing a xmas tree, decorations, gifts, we're more or less taking the christ out of christmas.
so how about the rest of you non-christian heathens?.
We are celebrating xmas this year for the first time. It's kinda weird because, even though we're doing a xmas tree, decorations, gifts, we're more or less taking the Christ out of Christmas. I'm all about taking someone else's custom and removing the religious aspect so we can have a reason to party. But I still want to emphasize giving (esp to the needy) to our kids. Peace, goodwill, all that jazz.
So how about the rest of you non-Christian heathens?
any neeewww newwwws on this?.
lmao @, well, everyone on this thread....
i used to always justify that the apostles (and paul) thought the end was near because the "mini-end" (jerusalem's destruction in 70ce) had not yet happened.. then it dawned on me that 1st/2nd/3rd john were written in 98ce (at least according to the back of my nwt), after jerusalem's destruction.. 1 john 2:18 (new international version)warnings against denying the son 18 dear children, this is the last hour; and as you have heard that the antichrist is coming, even now many antichrists have come.
this is how we know it is the last hour.. not only was it the last day, it was the last hour..
I dabbled in preterism (before I realized there was a name for it) before realizing deciding the bible was bull butter.
Back then, several passages made it seem to me that the 70CE fall of Jerusalem was the main event to which bible writers were pointing. (Also considering the 'great trib which has not occurred, no, nor will occur again' text.)
For example, Luke 9:27 (NIV) says....
"I tell you the truth, some who are standing here will not taste death before they see the kingdom of God.”
JWs, among others, would have believers think that Jesus was foretelling the transfiguration, which occurred 8 days later. That was ridiculous to me, since it would've been superfluous for him to say 'some standing there wouldn't die before it happened.'
Seriously, would that have been necessary to say?? How many of them DID die within that 8 days? BUT if the focus was on the 70CE destruction a few decades later, well then it would make a little more sense that some would die and others would survive in that time frame.
Of course, now I realize that the gospel was just another collection of writings, susceptible to the errors and disinformation of other records from that era.
straight ticket?
pick and choose?
close your eyes and vote for whoever your finger lands on?.
I can't believe Bob Dole didn't win.
lets check out his track record (according to the witnesses).. 1. first, he decides to rebel against the most powerful entity in existence that is omniscient, omnipresent and omnipotent.
which of course, will doom him to failure the second he begins.. 2. then he starts his brilliant plan to trick eve as a talking snake, interesting how that worked out since snakes don't talk.
(good thing eve was more stupid than satan).. 3. next he bets against god (again) with job.
What's wrong with assertive tone?
Yeah, Sab, I chose the wrong word. One of my comments was more dogmatic in tone than I intended.
lets check out his track record (according to the witnesses).. 1. first, he decides to rebel against the most powerful entity in existence that is omniscient, omnipresent and omnipotent.
which of course, will doom him to failure the second he begins.. 2. then he starts his brilliant plan to trick eve as a talking snake, interesting how that worked out since snakes don't talk.
(good thing eve was more stupid than satan).. 3. next he bets against god (again) with job.
Oh, absolutely. If that premise were true, then you'd have to assume that we CANNOT judge anything god does as morally deficient. But that's why I added the question about false presuppositions leading to false dichotomies.
Remove the premise and start from scratch without bias, though, and you'll get a whole different perspective.
[edited to slightly lessen the assertive tone]
lets check out his track record (according to the witnesses).. 1. first, he decides to rebel against the most powerful entity in existence that is omniscient, omnipresent and omnipotent.
which of course, will doom him to failure the second he begins.. 2. then he starts his brilliant plan to trick eve as a talking snake, interesting how that worked out since snakes don't talk.
(good thing eve was more stupid than satan).. 3. next he bets against god (again) with job.
So this is a good cop/bad cop thing? They're teammates? One tells us what not to do while the other tries to get us to do it?
lets check out his track record (according to the witnesses).. 1. first, he decides to rebel against the most powerful entity in existence that is omniscient, omnipresent and omnipotent.
which of course, will doom him to failure the second he begins.. 2. then he starts his brilliant plan to trick eve as a talking snake, interesting how that worked out since snakes don't talk.
(good thing eve was more stupid than satan).. 3. next he bets against god (again) with job.
You've lost me...
Sorry, I thought you were adding the argument from morality in there but it looks like you were just posing a "god is superior, who are we to try to reason on his actions" perspective.
lets check out his track record (according to the witnesses).. 1. first, he decides to rebel against the most powerful entity in existence that is omniscient, omnipresent and omnipotent.
which of course, will doom him to failure the second he begins.. 2. then he starts his brilliant plan to trick eve as a talking snake, interesting how that worked out since snakes don't talk.
(good thing eve was more stupid than satan).. 3. next he bets against god (again) with job.
Psac, I agree with you there... only an idiot would follow the Israelites into a parted Red Sea. Think about that. All Egyptians must've been incredibly stupid. Ridiculous. All the more reason not to accept it as historical fact.
But again, the point in question: God killed enemies before. Why let Satan continue to exert his influence?
