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  I just can't do anymore right now....

  by GrandmaJones in

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  i am constantly reading, studying, looking up more stuff on the internet, perusing old threads, keeping up with "new light" on jwn.

  i am in the middle of "in search of christian freedom" (having just finished steve's cultmind control book) and i am finding it so argumentive doctrinally that my head is spinning.

  i found myself this evening with my laptop next to my desktop (all the better to reference back and forth, m'dear) the wt library cd-rom open to "the modern history of jehovah's witnesses" in twenty four parts, with a plethera of "rainbow" books open for easy reference while i was listening to an old fred franz discourse at dodgers stadium!!!!!!!!!!!!.

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  You're an intelligent, thinking human, Grandma. You want to learn about the other side after having only been fed JW propaganda for so long.

  Seems a good many of us do the obessive reading and research for a while about anything JW-related. I got past that and eventually migrated to Christianity & the Bible in general.

  Since being DF'd, I've mellowed out quite a bit I think. I still find myself preoccupied with exJW/exChristian issues. Someday I hope to visit and post here far less... and lead a life that is less anti and more pro. Until then, it's part of the recovery process, I believe.
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  I celebrated my birthday today for the first time!

  by doublelife in

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  i didn't really have a party or anything, but people at work know that i'm no longer a jw and they got me a birthday cake.

  my birthday is not until the 28th, but my co-workers always celebrate anyone's b-day on the 3rd wednesday of every month.

  i've been giddy all day over it, though every once in a while, i'll remember how disappointed in me my parents would be.

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  SweetBabyCheezits

  HAPPY BIRFDAY!

  We just celebrated my wife's birthday for the first time yesterday as well. Good times.
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  Latest apostate warning in Feb 15 2011 Watchtower

  by dozy in

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  andre, who had served jehovah for years, had the bitter experience of being led astray.

  by apostate thinking.

  he felt that having a quick look at an apostate web site would not be dangerous.he recalls: initially, i was attracted to the so-called truths that the.

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  Blog Update

  by brotherdan in

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  just wanted to let anyone interested know that i've posted a couple new blogs.

  http://jwcritic.blogspot.com/.

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  SweetBabyCheezits

  Don't confuse going to where truth leads with going where a belief system leads.
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  Loftus: Are We Angry Atheists?

  by leavingwt in

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  john w. loftus responds to the "angry atheist" assertion.

  are we angry atheists?.

  .. if we are angry, christians will see this as a sign we are god haters.

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  SweetBabyCheezits

  I think some folks are taking that Christianity chart way too literal(ly?). It's a joke, with a little hyperbole... and means about as much in a literal sense as a man living in a whale big fish for three days.

  To me, while the chart pokes fun at Christianity, the principle applies to faith in the supernatural across the board: again, religious individuals in superstitious cultures have aided the advancement of man in spite of their superstition, not because of it.

  That said, I could be wrong. Maybe someone with a better knowledge of history could relate an example where superstition promoted real progress.

  Of course, this is a helluva tangent from the OP's topic. Guess I could get angry and tie it all together.

  grr

  Gladiator, I'm pickin' up what yer puttin' down in the above post.
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  Blog Update

  by brotherdan in

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  just wanted to let anyone interested know that i've posted a couple new blogs.

  http://jwcritic.blogspot.com/.

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  SweetBabyCheezits

  I've told you guys from the beginning that I am not afraid to go where truth leads.

  Yet you still fail (or refuse) to apply the most basic principles of critical thinking before starting your journey. So perhaps it isn't truth you're really after.

  "Once you can honestly say, "I don't know", then it becomes possible to get at the truth."-Robert Heinlein
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  Loftus: Are We Angry Atheists?

  by leavingwt in

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  john w. loftus responds to the "angry atheist" assertion.

  are we angry atheists?.

  .. if we are angry, christians will see this as a sign we are god haters.

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  SweetBabyCheezits

  Haha... we shoudl go ahead and make that a stereotype: if all christians who deconvert become Angry Atheists then all atheists who convert become Smarmy Christians.
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  Loftus: Are We Angry Atheists?

  by leavingwt in

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  john w. loftus responds to the "angry atheist" assertion.

  are we angry atheists?.

  .. if we are angry, christians will see this as a sign we are god haters.

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  SweetBabyCheezits

  Nice graphic, whereami.
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  Loftus: Are We Angry Atheists?

  by leavingwt in

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  john w. loftus responds to the "angry atheist" assertion.

  are we angry atheists?.

  .. if we are angry, christians will see this as a sign we are god haters.

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  SweetBabyCheezits

  Yes, I agree with that assessment, Paul. I don't doubt religion has made progress within itself. And, you know, without "religious" individuals contributing to modern advancements, we would still probably be in the dark ages. But that is despite religious superstition, not because of it.

  Perhaps if folks in the iron age weren't so busy ascribing epilepsy to the superstitious "demonic posession", but instead labeling the condition as "unexplained", the period of time for unlearning their superstition would be nil. So arriving at a reasonable, scientific diagnosis might've come sooner.

  In cases where science posits some theory that conflicts with, say, the bible - or the church's perspective regarding a passage or passages - what then? Fundamentalist opposition to evolution being taught in schools is just one modern example.
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  Loftus: Are We Angry Atheists?

  by leavingwt in

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  john w. loftus responds to the "angry atheist" assertion.

  are we angry atheists?.

  .. if we are angry, christians will see this as a sign we are god haters.

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  SweetBabyCheezits

  If someone else's belief system is not hurting you, why bother trying to change it?

  Because superstition impedes the progress of mankind in general. We must consider the bigger picture not just local, isolated issues.