I think I found a diagram of what an evil spirit looks like:
SweetBabyCheezits
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What does a demon or an evil spirit look like?
by foolsparadise inno they havent..because they dont exsist.
who needs demons to do bad things on the earth when we have people doing horrible things to each other since the beginning of time.
demons are just an easy way to pass of the blame...pretty easy to do since no one has ever seen one.. its like telling people there are evil invisible tooth faries lurking around every corner.
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Could Teaching Critical Thinking Abilities, End Cult Mind-Conrol Forever?
by lifelong humanist inin my mind, every child that undergoes an education system, whether it be a within the family, a basic pre-school kindergarten type structure, within a monitored school curriculum environment itself, or, as part of a further education programme, the emphasis should be on teaching people how to think critically, and for the common good of all.. if this was indeed the case, probably very few would succumb to mind-control techniques later on in life.
cults would struggle to dupe and recruit new members.
the cult leaders themselves, would derive little benefit from their evil mind games.
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SweetBabyCheezits
That was my soapbox in this thread, too:
http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/jw/friends/198833/2/BREAKING-NEWS-on-www-jw-media-org
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Could Teaching Critical Thinking Abilities, End Cult Mind-Conrol Forever?
by lifelong humanist inin my mind, every child that undergoes an education system, whether it be a within the family, a basic pre-school kindergarten type structure, within a monitored school curriculum environment itself, or, as part of a further education programme, the emphasis should be on teaching people how to think critically, and for the common good of all.. if this was indeed the case, probably very few would succumb to mind-control techniques later on in life.
cults would struggle to dupe and recruit new members.
the cult leaders themselves, would derive little benefit from their evil mind games.
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SweetBabyCheezits
"For every thousand hacking at the leaves of evil, there is one striking at the root." - Thoreau
Humanist, I absolutely agree. To me, the teaching of critical thinking skills to children, early and often, is the best long-term plan for humanity. In fact, I personally think most of man's suffering stems from a lack of CT.
I wonder where we would be if the entire population seriously questioned their own thinking instead of proudly upholding the presuppositions inherited from family, community, or other environment... and which promote prejudice, fear, and hate.
Unfortunately, it seems that getting the general population to back a critical-thinking-emphasized gradeschool cirriculum would be a massive hurdle. Those who are deeply religious rarely want their children to question their beliefs. Too many fundamentalists would regard critical thinking as a tool of the devil. (See this thread from yesterday for prime example.)
Reminds me of Clarence Darrow's words... “Just think of the tragedy of teaching children not to doubt.”
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What does a demon or an evil spirit look like?
by foolsparadise inno they havent..because they dont exsist.
who needs demons to do bad things on the earth when we have people doing horrible things to each other since the beginning of time.
demons are just an easy way to pass of the blame...pretty easy to do since no one has ever seen one.. its like telling people there are evil invisible tooth faries lurking around every corner.
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SweetBabyCheezits
Well, they're indistinguishable from misfiring synapses.
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Christians afraid of Carl Sagan?
by SweetBabyCheezits inin looking for a particular reference to carl sagan's the demon-haunted world: science as a candle in the dark, i stumbled across this website:.
http://www.crossroad.to/q&a/science/sagan.htm.
it appears the page was created as a rebuttal against carl's book.
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SweetBabyCheezits
One of my favorites...never tire of it...
Great clip. Thanks for sharing.
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Considered rebellious because I choose to think for myself
by LovelyEunie inhi all, this is my first post.
but i was one of those kids that was born into the whole jw thing, and like a good little witness kid i did everything i was supposed to do to please my parents (mainly my mom my dad's an unbeliever).
my mom was very strict with me when it came to everything they taught, no holiday parttys at school, no sports, no worldy friends, i was only supposed to associate with other jw kids (my mom is one of those extremist jws, she says she doesn't judge, but she's a perfect example of one one of those sisters with the holier than thou attitude).
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SweetBabyCheezits
My wife and I (both born-ins) were once devout dubs. But then I accidentally uncovered the 1914 prophecy bullshit and soon realized it was all just a sham. Within five years, my wife and I were disfellowshipped - not for our actions, but for our thinking. We didn't believe as they did. And they disfellowshipped us on those grounds.
So, yeah, I guess we were considered rebellious.
Welcome to a life of thought-freedom! Best of luck on your journey!
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Christians afraid of Carl Sagan?
by SweetBabyCheezits inin looking for a particular reference to carl sagan's the demon-haunted world: science as a candle in the dark, i stumbled across this website:.
http://www.crossroad.to/q&a/science/sagan.htm.
it appears the page was created as a rebuttal against carl's book.
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SweetBabyCheezits
Thanks for the comments, all. Unshackled & Cofty, I agree with your assessment of the guy.
And I understand your point, Tammy. What gets me is the parent's comment that he or she was"afraid" to read the book for him/herself. This person demonstrates an almost JW-like fear of questioning his or her cherished beliefs. That, to me, is truly scary.
By the way, if there's one thing we can agree on, it's Carl's view of the WT Society. It's funny that he was quoted numerous times by the WT but, unfortunately, they missed this one:
One prominent American religion confidently predicted that the world would end in 1914. Well, 1914 has come and gone, and - while the events of that year were certainly of some importance - the world did not, at least so far as I can see, seem to have ended.
There are at least three responses that an organized religion can make in the face of such a failed and fundamental prophecy. They could have said, "Oh, did we say '1914'? So sorry, we meant '2014'. A slight error in calculation. Hope you weren't inconvinenced in any way." But they did not.
They could have said, "Well, the world would have ended, except we prayed very hard and interceded with God so He spared the Earth." But they did not.
Instead, the did something much more ingenious. They announced that the world had in fact ended in 1914, and if the rest of us hadn't noticed, that was our lookout.
It is astonishing in the face of such transparent evasions that this religion has any adherents at all. But religions are tough. Either they make no contentions which are subject to disproof or they quickly redesign doctrine after disproof. The fact that religions can be so shamelessly dishonest, so contemptuous of the intelligence of their adherents, and still flourish does not speak very well for the tough-mindedness of the believers. But it does indicate, if a demonstration was needed, that near the core of the religious experience is something remarkably resistant to rational inquiry. [Broca's Brain]
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If you could choose one book to suggest to a JW...
by SweetBabyCheezits ini'm sure this isn't an uncommon question but i'll ask anyway.. suppose you had the chance to suggest one book, essay, article, or other writing with the goal of helping a loved one wake up... which one would it be?.
bear in mind the goal is to subvert the programmed hair-trigger defenses that cause a complete shutdown of critical thinking.
this automatically excludes anything that would directly place the wt society or its history in a negative light.
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SweetBabyCheezits
Cadellin, that's the kind of book I'm looking for. Nothing 'in your face' about it, yet it subconsciously plows the ground for critical thinking.
BTW, great experience. I'll have to look back and find other posts about your "awakening". Very interesting.
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If you could choose one book to suggest to a JW...
by SweetBabyCheezits ini'm sure this isn't an uncommon question but i'll ask anyway.. suppose you had the chance to suggest one book, essay, article, or other writing with the goal of helping a loved one wake up... which one would it be?.
bear in mind the goal is to subvert the programmed hair-trigger defenses that cause a complete shutdown of critical thinking.
this automatically excludes anything that would directly place the wt society or its history in a negative light.
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SweetBabyCheezits
Thank you, Gutted. I guess I need to read it myself before I try to fly it in under the radar.
Thanks, WB, the use of subtlety was one tip I learnt at the KH. They warned about insidious little seeds of doubt... which, as it turns out, is exactly what you need to circumvent cult programming.
EDIT: LOL @ WB. Don't go by the pic - I could be a bald 87 year-old hermaphrodite in reality.
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Christians afraid of Carl Sagan?
by SweetBabyCheezits inin looking for a particular reference to carl sagan's the demon-haunted world: science as a candle in the dark, i stumbled across this website:.
http://www.crossroad.to/q&a/science/sagan.htm.
it appears the page was created as a rebuttal against carl's book.
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SweetBabyCheezits
No Sagan fans?