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  Could Teaching Critical Thinking Abilities, End Cult Mind-Conrol Forever?

  by lifelong humanist in

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  in my mind, every child that undergoes an education system, whether it be a within the family, a basic pre-school kindergarten type structure, within a monitored school curriculum environment itself, or, as part of a further education programme, the emphasis should be on teaching people how to think critically, and for the common good of all.. if this was indeed the case, probably very few would succumb to mind-control techniques later on in life.

  cults would struggle to dupe and recruit new members.

  the cult leaders themselves, would derive little benefit from their evil mind games.

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  SweetBabyCheezits

  CJ, considering how much time you spend dancing with exotic Latina women, that makes me a little nervous.
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  Could Teaching Critical Thinking Abilities, End Cult Mind-Conrol Forever?

  by lifelong humanist in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  in my mind, every child that undergoes an education system, whether it be a within the family, a basic pre-school kindergarten type structure, within a monitored school curriculum environment itself, or, as part of a further education programme, the emphasis should be on teaching people how to think critically, and for the common good of all.. if this was indeed the case, probably very few would succumb to mind-control techniques later on in life.

  cults would struggle to dupe and recruit new members.

  the cult leaders themselves, would derive little benefit from their evil mind games.

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  SweetBabyCheezits

  The concept is great, just not practical to the degree that we think it can be.

  So, Psac, how practical is it to try to be a Christian?
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  Could Teaching Critical Thinking Abilities, End Cult Mind-Conrol Forever?

  by lifelong humanist in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  in my mind, every child that undergoes an education system, whether it be a within the family, a basic pre-school kindergarten type structure, within a monitored school curriculum environment itself, or, as part of a further education programme, the emphasis should be on teaching people how to think critically, and for the common good of all.. if this was indeed the case, probably very few would succumb to mind-control techniques later on in life.

  cults would struggle to dupe and recruit new members.

  the cult leaders themselves, would derive little benefit from their evil mind games.

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  SweetBabyCheezits

  The issue is that you can't remove the human element from thinking so the concept is, in of itself, not critical at all.

  ... just like scientists, "thinkers" are biased, perhaps MORE so and even worse so since, in the relm of "thinking" most is not "emperically provable" heck we can't even prove we ARE thinking, lol !

  Reductio ad absurdum
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  Could Teaching Critical Thinking Abilities, End Cult Mind-Conrol Forever?

  by lifelong humanist in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  in my mind, every child that undergoes an education system, whether it be a within the family, a basic pre-school kindergarten type structure, within a monitored school curriculum environment itself, or, as part of a further education programme, the emphasis should be on teaching people how to think critically, and for the common good of all.. if this was indeed the case, probably very few would succumb to mind-control techniques later on in life.

  cults would struggle to dupe and recruit new members.

  the cult leaders themselves, would derive little benefit from their evil mind games.

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  SweetBabyCheezits

  Critical thinking is critical except to it's own POV it seems...

  Psac, this is, once again, a prejudice against the concept of critical thinking. If a person is not critical of his own POV, he is just failing - fundamentally - to apply CT skills. That is no fault of the concepts themselves.

  For example, many people call themselves Christians but in no small way fail to reflect qualities attributed to Jesus. Does that diminish the value of such qualities? No. It just means man is incapable of displaying them to the superlative degree (or, in some cases, not really trying). But better he demonstrate those traits to the best of his ability than to abandon them completely, no?

  Critical thinking is congruent with the scientific method. Any good scientist must be highly critical of his own theories, no matter how badly he wants it to be true. He pokes, prods, and tests to find any holes because he knows that if one exists and he doesn't find it... someone else will. The scientific method doesn't play favorites.* The same is true of critical thinking skills.

  *I'm not saying scientists are unbiased, I'm referring specifically to the methodology.
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  If you could choose one book to suggest to a JW...

  by SweetBabyCheezits in

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  i'm sure this isn't an uncommon question but i'll ask anyway.. suppose you had the chance to suggest one book, essay, article, or other writing with the goal of helping a loved one wake up... which one would it be?.

  bear in mind the goal is to subvert the programmed hair-trigger defenses that cause a complete shutdown of critical thinking.

  this automatically excludes anything that would directly place the wt society or its history in a negative light.

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  SweetBabyCheezits

  Excellent ideas. Thank you all for your feedback! I'm going to give this thread another day or two and then tally up the votes.
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  What does a demon or an evil spirit look like?

  by foolsparadise in

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  no they havent..because they dont exsist.

  who needs demons to do bad things on the earth when we have people doing horrible things to each other since the beginning of time.

  demons are just an easy way to pass of the blame...pretty easy to do since no one has ever seen one.. its like telling people there are evil invisible tooth faries lurking around every corner.

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  SweetBabyCheezits

  Ok, Sab, but what does "it" LOOK like?
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  Could Teaching Critical Thinking Abilities, End Cult Mind-Conrol Forever?

  by lifelong humanist in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  in my mind, every child that undergoes an education system, whether it be a within the family, a basic pre-school kindergarten type structure, within a monitored school curriculum environment itself, or, as part of a further education programme, the emphasis should be on teaching people how to think critically, and for the common good of all.. if this was indeed the case, probably very few would succumb to mind-control techniques later on in life.

  cults would struggle to dupe and recruit new members.

  the cult leaders themselves, would derive little benefit from their evil mind games.

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  SweetBabyCheezits

  CJ, I share your view on a large number of subjects but I do not believe we're born with critical thinking skills. Curiosity is natural, perhaps, but does not encompass the whole subject, especially the introspective aspect.

  Regardless, I believe if these skills could be taught and developed early in childhood, it would lead to the eventual breakdown of so many prejudices propagated by parents, religion, and environment.
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  Could Teaching Critical Thinking Abilities, End Cult Mind-Conrol Forever?

  by lifelong humanist in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  in my mind, every child that undergoes an education system, whether it be a within the family, a basic pre-school kindergarten type structure, within a monitored school curriculum environment itself, or, as part of a further education programme, the emphasis should be on teaching people how to think critically, and for the common good of all.. if this was indeed the case, probably very few would succumb to mind-control techniques later on in life.

  cults would struggle to dupe and recruit new members.

  the cult leaders themselves, would derive little benefit from their evil mind games.

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  SweetBabyCheezits

  That is how critical thinking works. It goes out the window when emotions and other things happen.

  VIII, that is precisely NOT how critical thinking works and your comments betray your lack of knowledge or understanding of the subject.

  Critical thinking, if applied properly, works to counteract prejudice and bias. If "emotions and other things happen" and cloud a persons judgement, leading them ot make a bad decision, that simply means they've stopped applying critical thinking, not that critical thinking is a useless practice.

  That said, I also agree that we're only human and even the strongest advocate for critical thinking will fail to apply. But that certainly doesn't mean it should be shelved.
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  Could Teaching Critical Thinking Abilities, End Cult Mind-Conrol Forever?

  by lifelong humanist in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  in my mind, every child that undergoes an education system, whether it be a within the family, a basic pre-school kindergarten type structure, within a monitored school curriculum environment itself, or, as part of a further education programme, the emphasis should be on teaching people how to think critically, and for the common good of all.. if this was indeed the case, probably very few would succumb to mind-control techniques later on in life.

  cults would struggle to dupe and recruit new members.

  the cult leaders themselves, would derive little benefit from their evil mind games.

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  SweetBabyCheezits

  Could it be the after thinking critically about soemthing ( anythign really) that you see that critical thinking only gets you so far?

  EDIT: Exactly. It only gets you so far. But then you have to measure that against the alternative: How far do we go without it?

  Psac, when I hear questions like this, I cringe, usually because the one asking isn't aware of all that critical thinking entails, and he or she has already formed an attitude of indifference or prejudice against the subject.... which is acutely ironic.

  Critical thinking is not simply adopting a critical point of view of something. It is more about introspection - thinking about one's own thinking. It is the application of a number of developed skills. And it isn't defined in a single sentence.

  Could it be because critical thinking poses more questions than it answers?

  This is reminiscent of my parents asking me where my questioning had led me.
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  Being responsible for your behaviour

  by Luo bou to in

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  i make excuses for my ex and witness relatives telling myself that they're not responsible because they are under mind controll.

  but is that good enough.

  can treating someone as if they don't exist be excused ?

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  SweetBabyCheezits

  Look up the Milgram Experiment . It was a study performed by a Yale University psychologist in 1961, which measured normal, upstanding citizens' obedience to perceived authority when instructed to perform acts that conflicted with their consciences. It's pretty eye-opening.