I'm thoroughly convinced that they are the ones "blinded by satan" so that the light can't shine through. They are the most closed minded people I have ever met. Show em black on white that they're wrong and they will hypocritically change the subject or just dismiss you as an apostate. Its like a madman who swears that everyone is out to get him...only problem is its only in his head.
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Can't fault Witnesses for their level of dedication.
by Vanderhoven7 incan't doubt the dedication of most witnesses.. .
attending 5 meetings a week; doing 10 hours of fieldservice (door-to-door) each month; working hard for the reward of eternal life on paradise earth; willingness to shun their best friends and family members if these individuals are disfellowshipped from the organization; denying their young children blood transfusions even if it might save their lives; deciding not do any independant thinking apart from their religion; willingness to change their beliefs every time their anointed leaders change their minds on doctrinal matters....the list goes on and on.. .
yes, it's amazing what people without the indwelling holy spirit will dedicate themselves to do.. .
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I am new,,just need to ask? Overcharging at Special One Day Assembly
by dreamgolfer inre; overcharging at special assembly daysmessage hey, .
having a wee bit of trouble but may have stumbled across a couple of things.
can you confirm or look into this- .
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finallyfree!
Yaahh the dubs in my neck of the woods use a convention hall that serves as congregations for 4 territories and also serves as convention center for all 1 and 2 day assemblies in the area. They say its like 7000 for a day to rent the assembly hall part of the complex which is owned by the wts and paid for by its members...wtf!! When I asked why its so high the elder said there was other costs like the sound system (owned by the WTS) the heating and AC (still doesn't add up..) And other costs associated with the event (who knows where all that cash really goes to..). Its actually a way for the society to use their assets to turn a tax free profit at the year end. You see if the society has convention centers collecting triple or quadruple what any other place would charge its a great way to fleece the flock. Meek rhymes with sheep. They're so sheeplike that they follow the shepard z(the GB) without question. .
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December 15th WT gives example of sister who quit her job so she could go to an convention.
by life is to short ini was beyond mad when i heard this.
it is on page 30 of the wt.. it says "a pioneer named roxana is one who has seen how jehovah provides for his people.
when she asked her employer for permission to take some days off to attend one of our conventions, he angrily retorted that if she went, he would fire her.
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For every BS story like this that you hear there's probably a thousand that you don't hear of about sacrifice for the WTS and GB that land families bankrupt because they're waiting on jah to provide. Although the rare few that you do hear about they always progress to become elders and CO's and DO's. Funny how jehovah works...
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I Think, Watchtower Mislead ACLU to Support Them
by Scott77 inplease, what do you think after reading new article?
i think the watchtower is itself, an abuser of people's religious rights like the right to one's choice of religion.
look, many individuals are stalked over the years, all in the name of religion.
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The WTS and their "effort to convert and judge the world is a poison to society. You can't just walk into a country and expect to uproot strong engrained customs and traditions. No wonder they're "persecuted" so much. The only reason you don't see kingdom halls getting lit on fire and the religion literally driven out is because we live in politically stable countries. If north america were to fall into political chaos for some reason the people would drive out this corrossive dividing wedge of a cult.
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Baptized sister had little knowledge of the Bible from Jan 15 WT
by life is to short inthere is a life experience of a sister in the january 15th wt of a sister during ww2.
to quote her from the wt "i was deeply moved by what i learned, and quickly accepted the truth.
that very same year, i dedicated myself to jehovah and was baptized.".
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Sooo true! Half my family members work part time minimum wage jobs and regular pioneer. Married away as babies to MS's or getting old with nothing to show for their "service" not even married. Sad. When you think about it they work say 20 hrs a week at 8 bucks an hour so that's 160 x 4 weeks so 640 bucks a month minus taxes and ur left with 580 bucks. That pretty much barely covers gas and maintenance on a vehicule used full time. They basically work to serve the WTS. That's why they all bunk up 4-5 in a house or apartment or stay at home with their parents. Then they leech off the people who actually work.
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Thinking of writing a letter
by ranmac inforgive me if this has been touched on many times before.. i was wondering if anyone has actually written the society requesting their response/justifications to the many discrepencies and flaws in their doctrine and history, such as failed/altered dates and prophesies, pyramidology, beth sarim, lack of transparency, economic and political ties to the world, how they no more than archeologists, biblical contradictions, etc, etc..... if so, what was their response?.
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JW's have their heads stuck so far up their asses that they can't see anything. Even if its black on white.
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when is it too late to learn the truth about the troof
by diamondiiz inwts suckers in many young people who are still naive and trusting and they also sucker in people who are going through some sort of a crisis in their lives.
but they also prey on old people.
those who preach no doubt are sincere and believe what they're doing is life saving and all that... but to turn things around, how many here would tell an elderly jw that their religion is a con?
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For jws that have grown up, spent their whole lives surrounded by the org and have no support system to fall back on, like my older parents...no I think sometimes its better to let them lie to themselves. Even if they were to sEe it black on white for the lie it is they would still not change anything as "where else would they go?" Plus they r so brainwashed that itd go in one ear and out the other. The way I see it "religion" in general is for those who need a higher being to blame when our lives get off track (satan is workin hard!) Or when we need that "entourage" or "support" that comes with being affiliated with an organized religion. My 2 cents.
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Another visit
by MrFreeze inwell i've just had another visit with a eldurrrr.
i haven't been sleeping well.
i finally get a good sleep going and a couple hours later my stepdad wakes me up to tell me i have a visitor.
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finallyfree!
Yeah I explained the same thing to my fam using encyclopedia and bible and they couldn't find ONE thing to dissprove. The bible was in sync with encyclopedia. The only thing that was NOT making sense was the Watchtower dates/publications. But like it was brought out the alternative is too frightening for a witness to even consider...hence the "in one ear out the other" BS reasoning.
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Is the donation of Blood allowed for JW?
by Hoffnung inthis might seem to be a silly question, but if jw are allowed to accept certain blood fractions, they could consider participating in providing these fractions?
would be ok for a jw to donate his/her blood, if it is under the condition that it can only be used for the production of specified fractions?
has anyone asked the society (gb) this question, or is there already a thread on this?
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I asked the question to my family who are still in and they said they do not donate blood as JWs. When I said they should be allowed to donate to the bloodbank since they are tapping it when they accept fractions they said they love me, will talk to me about anything else, but that they don't want to hear my apostate views. Basically like it was mentioned earlier, they are hypocrites!!
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Interested Person kills Bethelite in German Kingdom Hall, later is killed by train
by processor inon saturday, 35 jehovah's witnesses gathered in their kingdom hall near frankfurt and sat over coffee and cake (for whatever reason, maybe pioneer school or some other event).
suddenly a 20-year-old man (according to most sources "not a jw yet, but wanted to become one"; though one source claims that he would have been an auxiliary pioneer) took a knife from the cake buffet and killed a 45-year-old bethelite (maybe a circuit overseer).. today the murderer was killed by a train - supposedly suicide.. .
http://www.thelocal.de/national/20101108-31031.html.
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finallyfree!
Maybe smurfette told him to do it!! Evil evil smurfette with that smokin hot body...always gets her evil wishes.