okay, i was sitting there just learning (this is my first college course toward my b.a.
), and all of the sudden the professor asks, "is anyone here a jehovahs witness?
" (this is a required religion course).
I think it's Satan persecuting you....heh-heh-heh-heh.............
Yep, total irony that this is your first class. This is the only category on "Jepordy" where I get all the answers right. After all, who else is gonna know who the hell Shadrak, Meshak and Abendigo were???
I plan on taking a Religious Studies class in the Winter Term. It's about Cults. Think I'll pass???
Edited by - Mary on 27 August 2002 12:1:35
the main reason given in the 1973 watchtower was that smoking is tied in with spiritism because the greek word which is rendered as spiritism is pharmakia' which literally means "druggery," (see galatians 5:20.
) therefore the argument was made that by smoking we put ourselves under spiritistic or demonic control.
for the last 20 years i haven't heard this reason used.. today the reasons given are that smoking shows no respect for your body as well as for life and that smoking doesn't show love of neighbor.
"....Dear Mary I certainly hope I didn't offend you in any way. One question: What if a person with a smoking habit only smokes in private or in a secluded area like a field where he can't harm anyone. In this case the love of neigbor argument wouldn't apply correct?.."
Nope, you didn't offend me at all, it was a perfectly valid question. With regards to whether someone smoked only in private where he can't harm anyone, then yes, I would say the 'love of neighbour' argument wouldn't apply. However, in my experience, I have never seen a smoker who didn't want a cigarette either with a coffee, a drink or after a meal; I guess that just goes with the territory.
If anything, I think the government should be doing alot more to help people stop smoking and lose weight...................
(a) suppose jehovah god interrupted a governing body meeting and said:
"let me clarify something.
i have considered postponing armageddon.
I think the GB would try and disfellowship Jehovah for "running ahead of the Organization."
do you know why the society says this?
regardless of whether the meeting is for the purpose of shepherding, sharing bible advice,or simply giving encouragement, "she could develop romantic feelings for the elder.it is possible for an elder to develop improper feelings for a sister he is comforting or counseling.
it is especially important never to meet with a sister alone when the sister being assisted has been a victim of abuse, suffers from depression,or for any other reason is in a delicate emotional state.a woman in such an emotional may be more vulnerable and may be prone to develop improper feelings toward an elder meeting with her.
Our presiding overseer got disfellowshipped 2 years ago for having an affair with a sister in the congregation who was the same age as his son. It had been going on for 3 or 4 years and it all started when he would go over to "counsel" her on the sorry state of her marriage. (ya, right buddy). Like so many others, she got married very young (16) had her first kid at 17, was brain-dead to the extreme, and was totally infatuated with this elder as he could be very charming. (half the sisters in the Hall had the hots for him). To her, he also represented the "father figure".
Anyhoo, he ended up leaving his wife of 27 years for this total bimbo, she leaves her husband and their two kids, and they both get DF'd.
Maybe this is why they don't want elders counselling sisters alone....................
last week my niece died in a car crash.
she was only 18 years old.
i haven't seen her since she was 10. i missed her all that time.
Tammy, I am so sorry for your lose, and I know what you're going through. When a family member who's younger than you dies, it totally goes against nature and it is one of the worse things you can go through. I know. Before the age of 25 I had lost 3 of my siblings: one older than me, and two younger than me.
Witnesses can be strange and they vary from Hall to Hall. We were given alot of comfort at the actual funerals and no one ever told me not to cry, but within a week, everyone else has forgotten about your loss and go on with their lives, but you are just STARTING to learn how to live with it. For some strange reason, Witnesses tend to think that because they offer the "resurrection hope", that it isn't normal to grieve at your loss. This is insanity, because you have to grieve: it's in our nature. Even in biblical times, there was a "period of mourning". Didn't Jesus "weep" when He heard that Lazarus had died?
The "unspoken" thought by JWs is: they've died, they'll get a resurrection, Armageddon is right around the corner, the earthly resurrection will start shortly after that, so you've probably only got a few years to wait before you see them again, so what's your problem?
Let yourself cry all you want. You need your "period of mourning" as everyone does. If you feel confused about death, or what happens after death, I would suggest talking to a councellor. This is what I did after my brother died. I was angry, hurt, devastated and I wanted some answers. Talking about it, telling her what my religion had taught me about the condition of the dead, wondering if there was indeed, life after death, really helped me alot because I knew she wasn't judging me like the elders would have. Their experience and judgement in dealing with emotional grief is zero and they usually make things worse.
Take care and God bless.
anyone remember the one where kirk got mixed up in the transporter and spit into two people?
one kirk was mean and violent and nasty and tried to feel up yoman rand and swore a lot and attacked people for no good reason.
the other kirk was sweet and nice and he seemed better, but he was kind of a woosie and couldn't make a decision or do anything meaningful except talk about denuvian slime bread toppings and he couldn't even get a bulge in the spandex for yoman rand, but at least he was polite.. gosh, i don't know what made me think of this episode.. night all,.
Yep, we used to watch all the original Star Treks when we were kids...........even (gasp!) missed alot of meetings to watch them as there were no VCRs back then.
Favorite one was "City on the Edge of Forever" with Joan Collins playing the part of Edith Keeler.
One thing about the original Star Trek, is how many things on the show, that were inconceivable at that time, have now come to pass.
For example: on the main bridge you had a black woman, Lt. Uhura in a very prominant position; something unheard of in the 1960s. Plus you had a Russian and a Japanese on the main bridge. Seeing as the series was made during the Cold War, it would have been really a stretch of the imagination to have anyone other than a WASP male on the main bridge. To me, this showed Gene Roddenberry's brilliance and imagination at its best.
Then you've got the communicators - they work very much on the same premise as our cell phones. And has anyone ever noticed the screen that Kirk used to communicate with StarFleet? They look exactly like the flat screens we have today on our computers.
What's really amazing, is that scientists today have successfully "transported" one foton particle from one place to another in the same room (this was in the newspapers a few months ago). Although we still have a long way to go before we can ever consider "beaming" someone up, it's incredible how far we've actually come in the last 40 years.
Edited by - Mary on 27 August 2002 9:38:34
i just need to get this off my chest.
my wife, nina, received a visit tonight from her book study conductor and his wife.
now she's made every meeting since i stopped going 14 years ago.
They came over to see your wife when you weren't home?? What a bunch of frigging COWARDS. If I were you, I would phone this elder and tell him that he is NOT allowed in your home to speak to your wife unless you are present.
This is what their own rules say anyway isn't it?
Seeing as this brain-dead elder isn't willing to discuss the pedophile problem within the Organization, then it would probably be best if your wife simply didn't talk to them any more. She's under no obligation to meet with them, she never appeared on Dateline and she hasn't DA herself. They have no grounds to DF her, and after she made the comment about the pedophile, the elder probably isn't too keen on discussing it further.
If he tries bringing another elder by, your wife should say something like "I've got a real bad case of PMS, so if you want to risk it, by all means, come by and talk to me." :-)
I guarantee you, they won't.
puts plugs in his ears from the start.. now, it don't seem to be my imagination, but many ladies for some inexplicable reason seem a tad unreasonable at least once a month where anything i do seems to be wrong in their eyes.
most ruddy irksome it is from a guys point of view i can tell ee.
here we are, quite happy in our own right, say something to this here balmpot, and wowwwwww irritable utterances just tumble forth with such degrees of unreasonableness tis almost funny to observe, but dare i laugh in their presence whilst she be in this most unpredictable of states?
this is a good example of rules that guys should follow:
Every "Hormone Hostage" knows that there are days in the month when all a man has to do is open his mouth and he takes his life in his hands. This is a handy guide that should be as common as a driver's license in the wallet of every husband, boyfriend or significant other.
DANGEROUS: What's for dinner?
SAFER: Can I help you with dinner?
SAFEST: Where would you like to go for dinner?
DANGEROUS: Are you wearing THAT?
SAFER: Gee, you look good in brown.
SAFEST: Wow! Look at you!
DANGEROUS: What are you so worked up about?
SAFER: Could we be overreacting?
SAFEST: Here's fifty dollars.
DANGEROUS: Should you be eating that?
SAFER: You know, there are a lot of apples left.
SAFEST: Can I get you a glass of wine with that?
DANGEROUS: What did you DO all day?
SAFER: I hope you didn't overdo it today.
SAFEST: I've always loved you in that robe.
PMS TOP 8 THINGS PMS STANDS FOR :
Pass My Shotgun
Psychotic Mood Shift
Perpetual Munching Spree
People Make Me Sick
Provide Me with Sweets
Pardon My Sobbing
Pack My Stuff
Purchase Me Sugar
Q: How many women with PMS does it take to change a light bulb?
A: One. Only ONE!! And do you know WHY? Because no one else in this house knows HOW to change a light bulb! They don't even know that the bulb is BURNED OUT! They would sit in the dark for THREE DAYS before they figured it out. And, once they figured it out, they wouldn't be able to find the light bulbs despite the fact that they've been in the SAME CUPBOARD for the past 17 YEARS! But if they did, by some miracle, actually find them 2 DAYS LATER, the chair they dragged to stand on to change the STUPID light bulb would STILL BE IN THE SAME SPOT!! AND UNDERNEATH IT WOULD BE THE WRAPPER THE STUPID @*!#$% LIGHT BULBS CAME IN! WHY? BECAUSE NO-ONE EVER
CARRIES OUT THE GARBAGE!! IT'S A WONDER WE HAVEN'T ALL SUFFOCATED FROM THE PILES OF GARBAGE THAT ARE 12' DEEP THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE HOUSE. THE HOUSE? - IT WOULD TAKE AN ARMY TO CLEAN THIS #@*$
I'm sorry, what did you say?
Edited by - Mary on 27 August 2002 9:18:0
a religious conflict is brewing in a small south kazakstan village whose muslim residents are increasingly angry at the recruiting methods of the jehovah's witnesses.
the villagers complain that the witnesses entice the community's children to join its ranks by offering them chocolates and sweets to attend services.
with the kidnapping of six jehovahs witnesses in the philippines, of whom two are beheaded, this is the second clash between jehovahs witnesses and muslims within a few weeks.
"....The villagers complain that the Witnesses entice the community's children to join its ranks by offering them chocolates and sweets to attend services....."
Perhaps the villagers would prefer that a few Muslims be beheaded with a note attached to their heads.......
i got this e-mail from my mother.
i sent her coc and many, many docs documenting all the false prophocies.
she does not want any part of the real "truth.
Tina, I noticed your mother was pretty vague on what exactly apostates "want". Her view, of course, is that being an apostate is the worse thing a JW can become - it's paramount to being classified as Judas Iscariot in their eyes.
You may want to try something more subtle with your mom. I would say to her something like you would be willing to listen to her side if she can show you in any of the Society's publications examples of 'apostates', specifically what did they say against the Organization (nothing vague like 'they want people to doubt' or 'they are trying to entice us away from the truth'.....it has to be specific examples.....surely that shouldn't be too difficult to find???).
If she can show you examples of false things that apostates have said, and how the Governing Body used THE BIBLE to show them wrong, then you're all ears.
We know that she won't be able to come up with ANY examples because any articles on apostacy is always really vague and never really tells you any subject matters that have come up and how they've backed up their beliefs using the bible - because they can't and they don't.
Might make her start to think a bit.........
