My dad has a ton of old leaflets and tracks from Rutherfraud's day that I don't think are widely known about. If you'd like me to scan them to you, send me a PM and I'd be happy to.
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6Completing the Scan of All WT Publications - Tracts
by ILoveTTATT2 in1924 the broadcaster volume 1 no.
1924 the broadcaster volume 1 no.
1924 the broadcaster volume 1 no.
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Memories of Grace Gough
by Mary inhi everyone;i'm not on here too much anymore, but i've been asked to write a brief biography of our dear grace gough ('mouthy' on here).
i'm writing my own memories of her but it was also suggested that i maybe contact others who knew her to see if they had a nice memory or two of her they'd like to share.
it would only have to be a paragraph or two and your name can be kept confidential if you like.
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Hi Everyone;
I'm not on here too much anymore, but I've been asked to write a brief biography of our dear Grace Gough ('Mouthy' on here). I'm writing my own memories of her but it was also suggested that I maybe contact others who knew her to see if they had a nice memory or two of her they'd like to share. It would only have to be a paragraph or two and your name can be kept confidential if you like. It is for an ex-JW site called AAWA or AWAA (I'm not really familiar with it). Anyway, if you do have a nice memory you'd like to share, please send me a PM.
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What are the chances of having a one on one with GB member
by Chook injesus drifted amongst the lowly folk .
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Mary
I'd say there's a better chance of Armageddon coming tonight than in you having a one-on-one with these clowns.
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CNN doc 'Holy Hell'
by Worldling9 ini just saw the documentary 'holy hell' on cnn, about a cult called buddhafield.
it was a small group but has existed since the 80s and still has a few followers.
classic cult stuff, much of which i found eerily familiar.
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Hey Compound! :-)
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CNN doc 'Holy Hell'
by Worldling9 ini just saw the documentary 'holy hell' on cnn, about a cult called buddhafield.
it was a small group but has existed since the 80s and still has a few followers.
classic cult stuff, much of which i found eerily familiar.
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I watched it. While there were some obvious differences, there were also quite a few similarities with the cult we escaped from. The isolation, the exclusivity, the shunning of family who are not members and the fact that you were not allowed to question any of the leaders whacko doctrines, sounded all too familiar.....
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Is this an "all-time" Low?
by Je.suis.oisif ini just wanted to vent, nothing more.
my aunt died in edinburgh last week.
her obituary facilitates adding candles & personal messages.
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Mary
Actually, this is not unheard of. Some Witnesses will do ANYTHING to get their hours in, no matter how low they have to sink. Here's a case that happened last year in Florida that the media picked up on:
JACKSONVILLE, Fla. - A local father who wishes to remain anonymous sent Action News Jax a copy of a letter sent to his family's church.
The letter read in part: "Sorry about your loss. I read about it from the obituary."
Jehovah’s Witness literature was attached to the letter.
“In a time when a family is grieving they need to be surrounded by family and friends. That's not a time for a person to proselytize their views,” the father said.
He tells me it's the second time his family received a letter like this. He said something similar came to his home in January shortly after he lost his daughter.
"We found a tract from the Jehovah's Witnesses, which I found horribly inappropriate,” he said.
The most recent letter was signed by an Eva Robinson.
Action News Jax reporter Katie McKee tracked down Robinson and spoke with her on Thursday.
McKee: “What is the overall purpose of them getting this pamphlet if they belong to a Presbyterian church?"
Robinson: "That doesn't matter. We are not trying to change anyone's religion. We are just simply encouraging."
Robinson was apologetic when told a family was angered and offended by the letters.
"I’m sorry. I meant no harm,” Robinson said.
Robinson said she frequently sends these letters to families listed in obituaries. She said this is first time she has heard of someone having an issue with it.
"I think it just reflects upon her leadership, which is unfortunately interpreting scriptures in a very shallow way,” the local father said. -
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Mouthy has Passed Away
by Simon inupdate on mouthy (grace gough)this is graces granddaughter.
i wanted to send an update that today my beautiful grandmother passed away - surrounded by friends and family.
- may 22 1927 - sept 2nd 2016. mouthys_granddaughter.
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Yes, I just received a phone call from Mouthy's daughter telling me that Grace had passed. I had spoke to her a few months ago and I could tell she was going downhill. Her daughter said that they'll be an announcement in the Kitchener-Waterloo Record and the Montreal newspaper, so I'm not sure of the date of the funeral yet.
Mouthy was the first ex-Witness I met in person and I loved her from the start. She had a wonderful sense of humour and would do anything to help others. She had had a difficult life from the start but always had a smile on her lovely face.
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Are the GB very intelligent men with higher than average IQ? Or are they stupid men who were put in their position by sheer “LUCK”
by John Aquila inare the governing body of the wt wickedly smart with extremely high iq or are they leaders of the wt because they were at the right place at the right time.
(in other words, pure luck )-think lottery.
ive seen them talk in jwtv and you can never convince anyone in the whole world that these guys are in the same category as someone smart or cunning like jim simons who founded renaissance technologies or bill gates.
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Woman sues JWs - Mom's inheritance, 300 000$ signed over to JWs 1 week before her death!
by StephaneLaliberte inthis article is written in french: .
http://gatineau.rougefm.ca/info-gatineau-ottawa/2015/08/08/elle-donne-son-heritage-aux-temoins-de-jehovah-sa-fille-depose-le-dossier-en-cour-superieure .
the mother, who passed away in the spring of 2015, signed a new will just one week before her death, while she was dying, in which she made the jws beneficiary of her 300 000 $ dollars inheritance.
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This is exactly what happened to my uncle (my mom's brother-in-law). His step-mother (who had no children of her own) left everything that my uncle's dad had to the Organization despite the fact that my uncle had looked after her and looked after her very well for all the years after his own father died.
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Is there a Child Molester on the Governing Body?
by TTATTelder ingreat report by abc on the abuses in jw-dot-org land.... i hope it opens a "floodgate" of future news reports and exposes.
if you ask yourself, "why hasn't the watchtower leadership changed their policy on the 2 witness rule?
if one or more persons on the gb has victims out there that can't come forward because of the 2 witness rule, then that would explain the permanent road block to policy change that is obviously in place.
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"...If you ask yourself, "Why hasn't the watchtower leadership changed their policy on the 2 witness rule?", here is the simplest explanation in my opinion: There are molesters in the leadership of the organization, namely the GB..."
In all honesty, I've never read or heard anything to suggest such a thing. I think a far more likely explanation as to why they don't want to change their Neanderthal policy is because they've always had a very 1950s mentality towards child abuse: don't ask and don't tell, plus they've always been drunk on their own power and no one--especially ex-Witnesses and the media (which of course is being run by Satan) is going to dictate how they run theirbusinessreligion.
I don't believe that they purposely want children to be molested, but when they had to choose between the welfare of the children and the Organization's reputation, they chose the latter which was of course, a huge mistake and certainly not the moral thing to do.
The quandary they now find themselves is this: If they change the policy due to (worldly) public pressure, then that would certainly give the impression that 'Christ's Brothers' were in the wrong and that is something they will never admit to, no matter what the evidence shows.
It would also put them on the same level as the Catholic Church---that 'false religion' that the WTS has pointed the finger at for decades for doing the exact same thing: protecting pedophiles, and again, that is something they will never concede to. At least the Catholic Church has publically apologized and is trying to make amends. The WTS has simply dug their heals in deeper and are now saying that all these court cases against them are nothing more than "apostate lies".
These guys live in an ivory tower and don't seem to understand that the decades of sweeping scandals under the carpet is over for them. With the advent of the internet, "there is nothing hidden that will not be revealed." If they were smart, they'd do a complete overhaul of this policy, do a public apology and compensate the victims. Their behaviour so far means that I wouldn't want to hang from the end of a rope waiting for this to happen.
