Posts by Mary

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I've Decided That It'll Be Best For Me To Return To The Kingdom Hall.

by Philadelphia Ponos in

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after carefully evaluating the my current life situation, i've come to the conclusion that returning to the hall will be best for me.

i simply just don't fit in with the rest of the world.

i don't drink, smoke, have sex, go to clubs, listen to worldly music, watch movies, or gamble.

Mary

Since I left however I haven't been able to regain that peace. I know it's illogical to think I can only gain peace and happiness by being a JW, but my life has become so bad right now that I'm suffering from a severe case of nostalgia.

The reason you are probably finding it so difficult right now is because Witnesses are not trained to have a realistic view of the world, nor are you allowed to develop a moral compass within yourself to determine how to live your life. It's all done for you, courtesy of the Watchtower. Therefore, when someone leaves the Organization without the proper mental and emotional tools, some find it incredibly difficult to 'make it' out there in the real world and they start looking back at the KH with 'nostalgia'. It's kind of like a woman who decides to leave an abusive husband, but who has no marketable skills with which she can utilize to support herself with and if she's never worked outside the home, it's doubley difficult. She may take a lousy job just to support herself and soon she starts thinking back with nostalgia to the nice home she might have had with her husband, the car, the security of having someone there.....suddenly, life with an abuser doesn't seem so bad and she thinks about going back to him because that's all she knows and it's what feels comfortable to her. How is what you're doing any different?

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I've Decided That It'll Be Best For Me To Return To The Kingdom Hall.

by Philadelphia Ponos in

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friends

after carefully evaluating the my current life situation, i've come to the conclusion that returning to the hall will be best for me.

i simply just don't fit in with the rest of the world.

i don't drink, smoke, have sex, go to clubs, listen to worldly music, watch movies, or gamble.

Mary

I've never planned on becoming a JW again when I left, but the world bascially forced me to go back. I need something to counter all the negative vibes I get from my job.

Why don't you try getting another job and read the bible at home at nights?

When I return however I won't go out in field service nor join the school and I will split my time between serveral congregations and not become a member of a single congregation.

Uh, ya right. And you really think that the elders aren't going to have a little chat with you over that? Witnesses are not allowed to "split their time between several congregations", because (and you should know this already), this religion is extremely controlling and they want to know exactly what you're doing, when you're doing it and how you're doing it. Plus, if you don't plan on going out in Field Serve-Us, you'll be getting several 'sheppherding visits' regarding that. Overall, your plan is counter-productive. You claim you want to go back but you don't want to do any of the "Witness things" like sticking to your assigned congregation, giving talks or going out hammering on doors Saturday morning. How many Witnesses do you think will want to hang around you when you will clearly be viewed as "weak in the truth"?

It's your decision of course, but it doesn't sound like you've really thought this through.......

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Could Christians please respond; Is there a penalty for rejecting Jesus?

by nicolaou in

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hell is pretty much out of vogue these days so if this rabid atheist decidedly turns his back on god and/or christ what will become of me?.

Mary

Hell is pretty much out of vogue these days so if this rabid atheist decidedly turns his back on God and/or Christ what will become of me?

Absolutely nothing.....However, if you reject the Faithless and Incontinent Slobber Class----oh man, you're SOL both in this life and that which is to come....

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End of the World Predictions that Failed

by flipper in

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for any of you christian or otherwise who feel that the " end of the world " is coming please refer to this historical list of failed " end of the world " prophecies which never happened : http://www.religioustolerance.org/end_wrl2.htm .

history is complete with stories of failed , alleged " prophecies " of the coming of the end of the world- allegedly.

news for everybody- organized religion does this to control it's members through fear and guilt by telling them that they are all born sinners and that god is coming with a " day of reckoning " in which everybody has to " pay up " for their sins , or be rewarded - allegedly - for being better than other people who sin.. i'll say for the record- i think it's total control, manipulation, and scare tactics used by religion throughout history .

Mary

You know what really pisses me off? Is the fact that I look at all the shit that's going on and in the back of my mind I've been occassionally thinking "OMG....maybe this is really it!"

How dumb is that? There have been countless times in mankind's history that have seen alot worse crap than what we're seeing now, but somehow, the Borg's thought processes still manages to infiltrate my braincells......

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Your best one sentence JW comeback contest

by moshe in

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i am looking for your best jw comeback- the kind that makes a jw's jaw drop.

ok, even two pithy sentences will do.. here's one i have used before on jws,.

moshe: " do you know what an oxymoron is?

Mary

If it could be proven to you that this wasn't 'the Truth', would you still go to the meetings? (believe it or not, I actually had a Dub tell me "yes").
How would someone know they were in a cult or under mind-control? (Danger Will Robinson! Danger!)

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What is this Sunday's talk about?

by skeeter1 in

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i need to know what is going to be discussed tomorrow..

Mary

LMAO! I just asked my father what the talk was about today and he said "...Oh, it was about how close we are to The End and how we have to remain faithful even though alot of us are tired and worn out....and about all the problems we have living in the Last Days...."

I guess I just moved up to the rank of 'Prophet'!!!

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44 minutes ago........

by AK - Jeff in

the rapture was supposed to happen.. i didn't make the cut i guess.. jeff.

Mary

It happened invisibly oh ye of little faith!!

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Great May21st doomsday article features JWs, too.

by moshe in

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so much good stuff this week- can a jw ignore the wt's place as the premier false prophet ?

print this out or email/send to all the jws/studies you care about.. -http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/national/case-of-poor-judgment/story-e6frf7l6-1226060322904.

case of poor judgment - us preacher harold camping gets it wrong againfrom correspondents from:ap may 22, 201112:00ambelievers warn of the impending doom that was due to arrive yesterday / afp afp.

Mary

It's funny, earlier today, I heard my dad mocking Harold Camping for predicting when The End was coming and how they're all waiting to be raptured up to heaven on May 21, 2011, yet he doesn't for a minute stop to think that what this idiot did is no different than what Charles Russell did in October 1914:

1975 Yearbook p. 73 Part 1-United States of America
"An incident at the Saratoga Springs convention in 1914 highlights Brother Macmillan's view of "going home" to heaven in that year. He wrote: "Wednesday (September 30) I was invited to talk on the subject, ‘The End of All Things Is at Hand; Therefore Let Us Be Sober, Watchful and Pray.' Well, as one would say, that was down my road. I believed it myself sincerely-that the church was ‘going home' in October. During that discourse I made this unfortunate remark: ‘This is probably the last public address I shall ever deliver because we shall be going home soon.'"
The next morning, October 1, 1914, about five hundred Bible Students enjoyed a lovely ride down the Hudson River on a steamer from Albany to New York. On Sunday the conventioners were to open sessions in Brooklyn, where the assembly would end. Quite a few delegates stayed at Bethel, and, of course, members of the headquarters staff were present at the breakfast table on Friday morning, October 2. Everyone was seated when Brother Russell entered. As usual, he said cheerily, "Good morning, all." But this particular morning was different. Instead of proceeding promptly to his seat, he clapped his hands and joyfully announced: "The Gentile times have ended; their kings have had their day." "How we clapped our hands!" exclaims Cora Merrill. Brother Macmillan admitted: "We were highly excited and I would not have been surprised if at that moment we had just started up, that becoming the signal to begin ascending heavenward-but of course there was nothing like that, really." Sister Merrill adds: "After a brief pause he [Russell] said: ‘Anyone disappointed? I'm not. Everything is moving right on schedule!' Again we clapped our hands."

How exactly is this crap any different than what Harold Camping & Co did?

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What is this Sunday's talk about?

by skeeter1 in

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i need to know what is going to be discussed tomorrow..

Mary

No idea but I'll bet dollars to donuts it'll go something like this:

Example of a character from the OT (probably Noah or Moses) and how much faith they had....

Jehovah destroys those who didn't listen to them and preserved them alive. Aren't we all happified He did this? Noah and/or Moses probably felt tired and discouraged but they persevered........Fast-forward a few thousand years to our time. We've been living in the time of the end since 1914......millions have come to know The Truth.........very wicked times we live in.......soooo many problems. Problems, problems, problems. Natural disasters coming out of our asses (specifically, the earthquake in Japan, the tornadoes in the States and now the friggin Mississippi cresting everywhere)....high prices of gas....everyone trying to make a living........In the midst of all this, Jehover's Witnesses preaching makes up for all the shit we see going on in the world. Sadly, some have not kept their faith and have left the Borganization.......everyone who's left is now on crack cocaine living under a bridge. Won't we be happy when Jehovah finishes those ungrateful basturds off?

Everyone's wearing out....The End is soooooo close you can almost touch it. How sad if after all the crap we've been through, if we were to lose out on everlasting life now. Materialism, apostacy and the god-damn internet are responsible and the Slobbering Body members don't know whether to shit or go blind at all the problems within the Borg.......

Let us thank Jehovah for these old geezer who have screwed more lives up than Genghis Khan and close with song and prayer.

Lemme know how close I was!

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After the pregnant woman is Raptured on May 21st - what happens to her fetus?

by moshe in

apparently, this has pregnant christians twisted in a knot trying to figure out how g-d will handle this paradox.

fetuses in heaven?

- or does g-d just let them die with the discarded human body left behind?.

Mary

5 hours and counting!!! Praise Ja-EEEEE-Sus!!!