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Were you df'd while suffering depression???

by Pistoff in

i have a son who was disfellowshipped while suffering serious depression and who was not actively "sinning".. i feel this is outrageous and want to know how widespread the practice is.

please tell me what your experiences are, i am interested and want to try to get the brothers to factor this in, so we can stop losing people to depression.

jst_me

My ex is bi-polar, and was going to the dr for that. They decided he was probably schitophrenic as well, but he got scared and the brothers who were counseling him laughed at him and he would not go back to the doctor.

I cannot remember a time during our entire marriage he did not talk about killing himself. I would watch what I did, what the kids did, everything so I wouldn't set him off so he wouldn't kill himself. Then sometimes I wished he would just do it so that he woud get resurrected and I wouldn't have to deal with it anymore. Then, I did the worst thing I could have ever done, but it was the only way out of that marriage that I could see. I knew he would kill himself if I left him, but I thought if I cheated on him then he would be free to marry again, plus everyone would rally round him and he would have support. (what WAS I thinking??)

Well, needless to say, that was a dumb idea and he wanted us to stay together and work it out so I decided well I better confess this so that I will have Jehovah's blessing. Of course, the ex got suicidal again, and tried to kill himself so I had him committed. The night he was committed was my meeting. I didnt cry, I dont think I could feel anything at all to be honest I was worn out, also I would not give them any details because I just did not have the strength for it. So, of course, even though I confessed my sin to them I was df'd. And do you think anyone visited my ex the entire time he was in there? Hell no.

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BUSh Declares Our RIGHTs come from GOD!

by plmkrzy in

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i dont know what happened it dissapeared!

geesh!

that was so wierd!

jst_me

Actually, the entire legality of the US govt's ownership of land is based on a papal bull that was issued in the same time period of the inquisition. The bull was the "doctrine of discovery", and it was basically the catholic church's seal of approval for the christian european nations of the world to invade, conquer, and christianize if possible the native inhabitents of the "new world".

The US took title of the british colony lands in north america under this god-blessed decree. This is legal way that much of indigenous lands world-wide were taken away. So, for me to hear Bush say that anyone with common sense knows that this same christian god is the one who gives and takes away ANY of my rights as a human being makes my skin crawl.

I do not have to be a god-fearing christian anglo man to be a good american. I am NONE of those things...and I would like to think that I still have as much opportunity in my own homeland as anyone else. And I do not think I should have to compromise my spirituality, my language, or my customs to do that. I would also like to think that I have a bit more common sense than George W.

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Adult College Students - Take a Bow!

by zenpunk in

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i notice that there are many of us here who were discouraged from going to college/university in our younger years, courtesy of the watchtower society.

i would just like to say "congrats" to those who, in spite of the indoctrination and the fact that they've had to attend college later while holding down jobs and paying their own way, have attended college and received degrees!.

when i left high school i went right into pioneering as college was not an option in the witness world.

jst_me

I graduated last year with my BS in Information Studies, I also have an AS in Electronic Engineering Tech. I am 35, and a single mom and I did it all by myself since I am quite the shunned one

and I had a 3.7! And, I won the humanitarian of the year award at my university.

Since I got laid off, I am looking at MBA programs.

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They're everywhere

by Elders_Kid in

i went to work last night and stopped by the employee break room and you'll never guess what i found... a copy of the watchtower and awake!!!

of course i immediatly filed them in the trash can, but seeing them there has raised quite a concern for me.. you see the problem is that i work at a correctional facility, and all entrances are completely secured.

that means that one of the officers left the magazines one the table, and the bad part is that it appears as if someone had been reading one of them.

jst_me

If I saw any of that mess at work I would complain...there is no place for it at work.

That is, if I ever get another job

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How Do You Discipline YOUR Kids?

by MrMoe in

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curious... how do you discipline your children and why?

spank or not to spank?

are your kids brats (and be honest here.).

jst_me

I think it is important to remember that kids react and respond to stress in their lives in different ways.

I have a 15 year old who has sensory integration disorder...and noone picked up that she may have a physical prob till she was 11 (cuz she is as smart as hell). She used to pitch huge fits...but in retrospect it was always if we were in a crowded noisy place. (She does not do well with noise, or being touched...even bumped into...unexpectedly). Can you imagine how assemblies were for us? She also is very, very literal.....and communicates in a strange literal way. That took some getting used to.

My son is almost 13, and I am convinced that is the most horrid age that there is. He used to be my BOY....now he laments about how much I have changed and how I used to be so cool. It isnt cool to tell him NO at all.

Mine both have chores. No one is allowed to say stupid, dummy, or shut up (I prefer some swear words to those words to be honest). Noone goes anywhere unless I know everyone who is going, and I call if they go to someone's house to make sure an adult is there.

I pay alot of attention to their moods. If they get mouthy, or are extra mean to each other, I start really talking and asking questions to see what is up. I try to take them out to do things with me one-on-one too.

I would cut these kids some slack, honestly. They are the victims of a bad situation....they are probably decent kids you just disagree with how the parents are raising them. They are probably also acting out to the stress. If you dont like that, the people you need to come down on are the parents. Or maybe yourself. Just admit you bit off more than you can chew letting these people in, have a sit down with them and give them a get out deadline.

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What makes you smile?

by WildTurkey in

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what brings a smile to your face?

i cant help but smile when my wife laughs, or when my kids play outside.

i also smile when my boy, who is 15 wants to talk to me.

jst_me

When my son (who is almost 13) giggles, that make me smile.

That my 15-year old knows all the words to anything by Janis Joplin, the Doors, and that Creedence is her favorite band makes me smile.

That both of them are very socially aware...and that they use their young voices to challenge teachers and the like....that makes me very happy (how could I have ever started to raise them as JWs?)

Seeing the water.

When the guy I see does something dorky and sweet for me....that makes me smile.

Watching my son and my guy and his friends play X-box together makes me smile alot ( they are all on the same level!! HAHA)

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QUIZ -- Are You a Nerd?

by MrMoe in

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are you a nerd?.

http://www.armory.com/tests/nerd.html.

you answered "yes" to 37 of 100 questions - you have 37.0% nerd in you.. your weirdness factor is 30%, based on a comparison of your test results with 109450 other submissions for this test.

jst_me

Here are my results:

You answered "yes" to 56 of 100 questions, making you 44.0% nerd pure (56.0% nerd corrupt); that is, you are 44.0% pure in the nerd domain (you have 56.0% nerd in you).
Your Weirdness Factor (AKA Uniqueness Factor) is 41%, based on a comparison of your test results with 109450 other submissions for this test.

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What's Your Pet Peeve?

by DB in

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of course, the wts is pretty much a pet peeve of almost everyone here.

but besides that, what's your pet peeve?

i'm in a playful mood today, so here's mine, with some tongue-in-cheekiness, of course: .

jst_me

Bendrr

I havent heard it in a while cuz I've been up here. Thats too bad it got commercial...it was so funny. I like married man. And Raeford, even though he was a mean old stubborn man at times.

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What was your crisis

by JG in

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what was your crisis of conscience, moment of clarity, epiphany or realization?

i am so interested in what got you thinking.

blessing to you,.

jst_me

The Blood issue in Bulgaria. That just blew me away. I had been df'd, but was going to all the meetings, and still thought it was "the truth" till I saw that.

I went to my last circuit assembly right around the same time. This member of the GB, who was old and could hardly stand let alone speak, had a part. They treated him like the pope, or a rock star or something. It was DISGUSTING. I told my mom that was it, and she agreed that it was wrong, but I guess she could handle it. I couldnt.

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Do your parents still talk to you?

by scootergirl in

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just curious if your parents still have contact with you after you have been df'd/da'd.

mine have stood by w/strong convictions not to have contact w/me.

they have to have some being that i have kids that they want to see (but that is very minimal).

jst_me

My parents do as the are told, and do not talk to me. Except to talk to the kids. I moved up north, and my mother will call to speak to the kids, if one of them answers the phone she will not even ask to speak to me.

She came to my college graduation, which actually shocked the hell out of me. What was really cool is that during the ceremony, they called out three outstanding students and told about some of what they did at college, and I was one of them (the school I went to has an enrollment of like 30,000...so it was a BIG deal). Afterwards, everyone else was so surpised, as was I, that I had to stand up and be acknowleged like that....I asked my mom if she was suprised and she said, no I knew they would talk about you too because that is always how you have been. I have a "surragate mom" of sorts, she is the one I call to ask mom things to...and she was really struck by how my mom will just look at me with such love and sadness at the same time. I know she loves me.

I think she is shocked that all the bad things that are supposed to happen to you when you "leave jehovah" did not happen to me. I am not even what you would call christian anymore, very spiritual still but not in that organized religious way. I think that people who teach that the greatest commands are love should be ashamed that they teach women to ignore all of their maternal instincts and treat children who dare to leave this religion as if they were dead leave this god. Yeah, thats love.

My dad wrote me a long letter when I graduated. He really doesnt talk to me either. I know he is proud of me, and that is all I can really hope for at this point.

I friggin hate that religion. I do miss my folks alot.

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