I just love all of these comments for they drive home the point that without Freddy and his great Creative Writing Skills the boys in writing are in trouble today
only cut and paste is allowed for all new releases
smile
james
in the bizarre world that exist within the watchtower society headquarters in brooklyn you can find all kinds of strange statements.
particularly funny is the use of the expressions indisputable/physical facts.
according to the watchtower from 1922, indisputable facts showed that jesus second presence began in 1874!
I just love all of these comments for they drive home the point that without Freddy and his great Creative Writing Skills the boys in writing are in trouble today
only cut and paste is allowed for all new releases
smile
james
i recieved this note from a young person i know personally.
it brought tears to my eyes for someone so young to see things so clearly.
why can't six million others see this simple reality and the need for change?.
Alan
nice post man
i recieved this note from a young person i know personally.
it brought tears to my eyes for someone so young to see things so clearly.
why can't six million others see this simple reality and the need for change?.
wayne says:
. It is too easy to cause far ranging decisions to be hastily made and to perhaps be found to be actually a worker against the interests of God.
James ask: so do you consider the wt as working in the interest of God?
Wayne says
Actually, JT, the answer is an emphatic YES!
I want to thank you for your honest heart felt answer- while I disagree with your view I fully understand why believe what you do- if you continue to be open to examining different points on the issue of the role that the WT claims it plays in the out working of god’s purpose I’m sure you will find it very enlighting
As you will see the very Core Belief of WT is put to the test here namely:
“ WE SPEAK FOR GOD AND NO ONE ELSE DOES DON’T LISTEN TO US AND YOU DIE”
THIS basic teaching of the WT has failed to stand the test for many of us
But I encourage you to at least take the test and see how you do
Welcome to the board
james
i recieved this note from a young person i know personally.
it brought tears to my eyes for someone so young to see things so clearly.
why can't six million others see this simple reality and the need for change?.
wayne says:
. It is too easy to cause far ranging decisions to be hastily made and to perhaps be found to be actually a worker against the interests of God.
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do you consider the wt as working in the interest of God?
jamews
i'm relatively new on this site...but one subject i've noticed that seems to create alot of interest is that of 1975.. our family became witnesses it 1983 so i wasn't around at the time.
forgive me if i do not understand why many were so angry with the wts at the time.. i understand the point that the society blamed individual witnesses and didn't take any responsibility themselves.
i can see how witnesses got angry over that.. but, what i do not understand is why many still research into what the society said, or didn't say, or insinuated.
dig:
I cannot answer your question, for the simple fact that i do not believe in God at all...or at least the bibles perception of God. I think that their mistakes disqualify them from saying they have 'the truth'...however a mouthpc of God, I cannot answer if i do not believe in him.
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you and i share a number of issues in common
you are indeed a GOOD MAN
JAMES
http://www.amishabuse.com/.
it is very long but it provides a very revealing look behind the religion yes it is like jw another high control group.
just something fyi.
it is very long but it provides a very revealing look behind the religion yes it is like jw another High Control Group
just something FYI
james
tonight, memorial night, i was thinking about what some people have said about helping their families to see the "truth about the truth.".
i've felt for some time that it may be preferable for my mother and father to remain witnesses, to be honest.
my mother grew up with it, while my dad got involved in the late 1980's.
comment says:
Anyway, off I go to the Memorial. My personal position is that keeping my family intact is more important than making a statement about the Society or their teachings. So, though inactive, I'll do what's necessary to keep the lines of communication open, and it makes them feel better if I go to the Memorial. I understand where other people are coming from on this, though.
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i think that i can speak for most of us here we in no way condemn what you are doing- we all have to deal with this matter in accord with what is best for us-
and what you are doing many of us know of others who at this point in thier life is doing the exact same thing
wish you well
james
i thought the name of this thread was so on time for this thread demostrates one of the sad things about claiming to speak for god, when one actually does not.. when i was a newly appointed elder at the tender age of 27 .
i was introduced to the world of the judical committee.. it was in fact my first case.
i had gotten a call from the po before the meeting stating that their would be an elders meetings to discuss some judical matters.
TJ says
as far as the argument part, how you said that
you've argued enough over pointless matters, well,
i can relate with that, too, having been raised a
witness. ever see "Taxicab Confessions" on HBO
and see the wild ways that people live?
******
nice example with the HBO show i saw it too
p.s. seen RW lately?
i got an email from him the other day
thanks for those emails you have sent me
take care man
james
i'm relatively new on this site...but one subject i've noticed that seems to create alot of interest is that of 1975.. our family became witnesses it 1983 so i wasn't around at the time.
forgive me if i do not understand why many were so angry with the wts at the time.. i understand the point that the society blamed individual witnesses and didn't take any responsibility themselves.
i can see how witnesses got angry over that.. but, what i do not understand is why many still research into what the society said, or didn't say, or insinuated.
Love dubs says:
There are people who say that just because they werent there for it the HOLACAUST also didnt happen. That it is Jewish Urban Legend made up to trump up sympathy. If its OLD news and we should just move on, perhaps all the OlD news in the Bible which is 2000 years old, we should just move past too? If a person lied to you and lied to you and lied to you...why would you believe them when they tell you anything now? Just because what they said was in the past? Just because they are now labeling it a "mistake" and not THEIR mistake but the SHEEP'S mistake somehow its now irrelevant and never happened or was greatly exaggerated? Tell me how 3 million people all came to the EXACT same conclusions at the EXACT same time if that "conclusion was not careful orchestrated and PLACED there for them to "conclude"? I suggest strongly you go look at what your innocent Society wrote to create this fervor.
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All i got to say is :
U GO GIRL!!!!!!!!!!!!
i'm relatively new on this site...but one subject i've noticed that seems to create alot of interest is that of 1975.. our family became witnesses it 1983 so i wasn't around at the time.
forgive me if i do not understand why many were so angry with the wts at the time.. i understand the point that the society blamed individual witnesses and didn't take any responsibility themselves.
i can see how witnesses got angry over that.. but, what i do not understand is why many still research into what the society said, or didn't say, or insinuated.
patio says
Many who have discovered all of this are appalled and want to keep the issues alive so others can get their lives back. It springs from love for fellow humans.
Very nice summary
thanks
james