Posts by JT

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An Example of JW Need2Get a Life

by JT in

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we have often times seen jw come here and say:.

why don't you guys get a life- well here is a perfect example of a group of folks who need to get a life.

while many of us left wt and have gone on to college and gotten jobs where we are able to provide these things for ourselves and our famiies poor jw are sitting around waiting to cash in thier new system coupon in order to get these things.

JT

this is so sad:

YK says:

"Creatively though, I write songs, not prolifically, but that's been my creative outlet since I was a teen. I use to try to sell them but I gave up on that many years ago. I always wanted to have a music studio and put together songs by myself"

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here we have a guy who may perhaps have the talent and skill to run a major record label or talent search org and due to wt he has put on Hold perhaps his natural talent in hopes of a pipe dream- this is truly sad

i recall reading articles where bro and sister who played music or Danced in the theater, or any other thing they had an interest in --would put on hold thier hopes and dreams and desires to sell useless books and wait

and here we have another jw who i'm sure could make wonderful music and as we watch this man he has his entire life on hold for what we all know will never happen

DAMN THAT IS SAD

JAMES

7

Social Denial

by Victor_E in

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the year is circa 1994; i go to my driveway to pick up the sunday paper to read.

on the front page is the story of a serious car accident.

one person was killed he was a passenger in one of two cars that were racing; he got decapitated as a cable cut through the windshield of one of the cars.

JT

ven: says

Nothings sadder then a Df'd person who still belives in it!!!!

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i agree it is so sad to see someone so close to a glass of water yet end up dying of thirst

james

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An Example of JW Need2Get a Life

by JT in

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we have often times seen jw come here and say:.

why don't you guys get a life- well here is a perfect example of a group of folks who need to get a life.

while many of us left wt and have gone on to college and gotten jobs where we are able to provide these things for ourselves and our famiies poor jw are sitting around waiting to cash in thier new system coupon in order to get these things.

JT

Hey You Know

as always I love your post mainly because i realize it reflects your only opportunity to be heard. We will never shut you out or not listen to unlike your so call bro and sis. just yesterday i say a bro downtown DC much like you - basically a good man , but lacking in what JW call "Spiritually Mature" I thought to myself John would enjoy being on the net if he got a PC- when i was attending you could always count on John doing lots of research and giving like 3/4min comments on the Anti-type of so and so, but in the end all the friends just laughed at him- pretty much like the bro in your hall must do you.

i recall about 6 or 7 yrs ago when he like you started to Partake of the emblems- since i was in a hall with alot of Society Men- we didn't even get upset- in fact most of the friends felt sorry for the poor guy- he was sorta like you A WANTA BE "Heavy"

so when i read your post i just get a smile on my face thinking here is a guy who despite all his post and comments still don't realize tha the very org he defends would kick him out on his A$$ if he started to express the same views he shares with us

it is very sad to see a jw who has been REDUCED to having to share his most heart felt beliefs and views only with "Apoststes" cause we are the only ones who will listen to him-

you see guys like you are good for cutting the grass at the hall and no more - whether you want to accept that or nor i could care less

if there is one thing i learned while in wt is that wt is a position driven org and guys like you with no title are viewed as :

half a man-

but hey - like i have said so many times We Welcome you here- whether you agree with us or not - just knowing that you have a desire to be here with us is the most important thing

I'm glad you are here- you serve as a constant reminder of why a person made the right choice to leave wt and the funny part is YOU DON'T EVEN KNOW IT
SMILE

JAMES

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JW counting Time ONLINE

by JT in

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for along time i wondered are there jw out there who are skipping sat am and going for the cup of coffee in the bathrob and surfing the net to count time?.

well i found it- .

damn - why didn't i think of counting time when i was a jw i could have avg at least 40hours a month like you know and fred hall.

JT

for along time i wondered are there jw out there who are skipping Sat AM and going for the cup of coffee in the bathrob and surfing the net to count time?

well i found it-

damn - why didn't i think of counting time when i was a jw i could have avg at least 40hours a month like You Know and Fred Hall

james

http://www.greatcrowd.com/159ubb/Forum1/HTML/000234.html

life is good

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An Example of JW Need2Get a Life

by JT in

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friends

we have often times seen jw come here and say:.

why don't you guys get a life- well here is a perfect example of a group of folks who need to get a life.

while many of us left wt and have gone on to college and gotten jobs where we are able to provide these things for ourselves and our famiies poor jw are sitting around waiting to cash in thier new system coupon in order to get these things.

JT

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now that is funny

james

27

An Example of JW Need2Get a Life

by JT in

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friends

we have often times seen jw come here and say:.

why don't you guys get a life- well here is a perfect example of a group of folks who need to get a life.

while many of us left wt and have gone on to college and gotten jobs where we are able to provide these things for ourselves and our famiies poor jw are sitting around waiting to cash in thier new system coupon in order to get these things.

JT

we have often times seen jw come here and say:

why don't you guys GET A LIFE- well here is a perfect example of a group of folks who need to GET A LIFE

while many of us left wt and have gone on to college and gotten jobs where we are able to provide these things for ourselves and our famiies Poor JW are sitting around waiting to cash in thier New System Coupon in order to get these things

enjoy

james

http://www.witnessesonline.com/cgi-bin/cgiwrap/witnessesonline/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=1&t=000398

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Help! Help! My son wants to tell elders about me

by LostMyReligion in

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i am floundering!.

today my jw son told me that he had seen an email in our family account written to me from an exjw.

it contained very little, but enough to let him know that i was in contact with outsiders about my doubts and feelings.

JT

path says:

jeopardizing yourself if you believe you can somehow "reason" with him.

####### well put my friend- at this point she has the needed to tools to deal with this issue unlike many in the past who were literally LOST and to listen to them relate the pain they went thru man i take my hat off to those men and women-

she has many things on her side

1. her son is not at home with her
2. her hubby is laid back and cool
3. and she can alway play her WEAKER VESSEL card

i mean today no one has to suffer anymore like the friends in the past
when it comes to dealing with WT- as i look at wt we all merely worked for a company that promised us Job security and instead gave us the SHAFT
SMILE

JAMES

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Help! Help! My son wants to tell elders about me

by LostMyReligion in

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i am floundering!.

today my jw son told me that he had seen an email in our family account written to me from an exjw.

it contained very little, but enough to let him know that i was in contact with outsiders about my doubts and feelings.

JT

lmr

"but overall it made no dent in his resolve. He feels it is a test of his integrity to do this, and said blood relations did not matter in it."

#### this is a very powerful point for anyone reading this can clearly see the intense indoctrination process that has taken place over the years

"it does seem he displays a self-righteous streak that amazes me"

####when one takes a step back it is almost unbeleivable that someone like a child would do this, but as we all realize to him it is like going up against an AGENT OF SATAN HIMSELF

However as others noted (JT I think) the whole behavior is a quite predictible manifestation of WT programming.

#### and this is where many jw are learning HOW AND WHEN TO LEAVE in a manner that leaves them somewhat at least "INTACT"

WE KNOW thier "MO" like the back of our hand since many of us used to be the very same way- i would have turned in my mama as well

in fact my mm told us after we left that over 12yrs ago she knew that something was wrong and she was afraid due to the fact that i was a "Society Man" i would personally DFed her

smile

so we can use this knowledge of the JW mndset to our advantange if we so desire- at least that is one of the options

"All my life, I have tried to do the right thing, and be a good sister. I feel like I have fallen off the edge of the earth, I cannot change what I know and feel now"

we all understand how you feel to find out that what you have built your entire life upon is worse than SAND is truly painful

"And although learning it has caused much pain for me, I have gained freedom from imposed guilt and fear, which were grinding me into the ground emotionally for so long."

####yes as JW we all lived in the "FOG"

F- Fear
O- Obligation
G- Guilt

that is the reason why wt wants to keep it's members in the dark
as we all know that FOG is thickest when it is dark

but the moment sunlight hits it - it starts to disappear

same with wt as soon as you see the light of day FEAR- OBLIGATION AND GUILT START TO DISAPPEAR

and you will indeeed be just fine- at this point it is merely a matter of deciding HOW AND WHEN YOU WANT TO LEAVE
you have been given the entire selection- choices that many dear ones never had years ago

we can help you walk thru the mine fields if you want our help

take care and i wish you well

james

ps feel free to email me and perhaps i can give you a call or you can call me

shoot me an email

[email protected]

How this will play out, time will tell, and probably very quickly. I'll let you know. Thanks again.

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ex-JW life -- Reality vs. Fantasy

by Seeker in

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what are the lives of ex-jws really like?

the wts tells jws one thing, but is what they say reality, or fantasy?.

a common technique used by the wts to express their viewpoint while avoiding the truth of the matter is to focus on the specific and imply that it is the general.. let me explain: do you know of any ex-jws who were disfellowshipped for immorality?

JT

seeker on the money as always

yes in fact as an elder i would use the example of those who may have gotten into "Destructive behavoir or relationships" as reasons not to LEAVE THE TRUTH and it would scare the sh!t out of folks-

we recently had a number of dfed jw over to our house and they could not beleive how we were living our lives - NO DRUGS NO CRACK , NOT STEALING , ETC

for they have been told that if you leave your life goes down the toilet and when they can see examples of those whose lives are "INTACT"
they begin to see that there is indeed life after wt

great post my man

james

54

Haven't you got anything better to do?

by tedcobb in

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obviously a lot of you are no longer jws, for whatever reason, but surely you can find something better to do with your time.

you seem to spend a lot of your spare time slating the society or picking holes in your former beliefs.. if you've left and think what jws believe is a load of rubbish, thtat fine, you cn do what you want, but why you have to go on about it?

if being a jw means so little to you, why not just leave it behind and get on with your life?

JT

Princechanment:

It is such a supreme act of defiance for a Witness to get on the Internet and do a search on witnesses. In some way it shows he/she is not satisfied with what the Society dishes out weekly. He/she is ready to break ranks.

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so well put indeed

james