Posts by laverite

posted

60
I can't take this crap anymore. It's time to get pro-active!
by BONEZZ in
1. jw
2. experiences
ive been around this board for quite awhile.

it has helped immensely.

lately i just read everyone elses experiences and try and forget the whole nightmare...but i cant.
laverite

Darth,
You may be on to something there. Imagine a website where video messages could be put up by the person who runs the site with heartfelt messages to loved one still stuck in the Watchtower Corp. This could be extroardinarily powerful. I agree that it would be best to set out guidelines for the videos (not abusive, language/cursing, etc.). I'm imagining the possibilities.
There are many possible names for a site like this:
watchtowerfamilyhelp.org
watchtowershunning.org
jwshunning.org
jwhelp.org
I don't know if any of those sites are already taken...But these are just some ideas.
60
I can't take this crap anymore. It's time to get pro-active!
by BONEZZ in
1. jw
2. experiences
ive been around this board for quite awhile.

it has helped immensely.

lately i just read everyone elses experiences and try and forget the whole nightmare...but i cant.
laverite

Kiddingme - you write that it could be perceived as persecution and could contribute to an assembly part. I agree. But is this necessarily a bad thing? Who knows, there may be some cognitive dissonance as a result. Not likely to change the family situation any, but...
There may be a greater good: to others and society at large.
60
I can't take this crap anymore. It's time to get pro-active!
by BONEZZ in
1. jw
2. experiences
ive been around this board for quite awhile.

it has helped immensely.

lately i just read everyone elses experiences and try and forget the whole nightmare...but i cant.
laverite

"Grow up and be a Dad to your only daughter." -----> Very condescending. I'm sure Bonezz would love nothing more than to be a dad to his children.
60
I can't take this crap anymore. It's time to get pro-active!
by BONEZZ in
1. jw
2. experiences
ive been around this board for quite awhile.

it has helped immensely.

lately i just read everyone elses experiences and try and forget the whole nightmare...but i cant.
laverite

Bonezz,
I disagree with Ginger. As far as I am concerned, your plan is an excellent one.
60
I can't take this crap anymore. It's time to get pro-active!
by BONEZZ in
1. jw
2. experiences
ive been around this board for quite awhile.

it has helped immensely.

lately i just read everyone elses experiences and try and forget the whole nightmare...but i cant.
laverite

And as you know it won't bring her back to you (would anything??), but at least you will have done something without taking this *&^$ from the Watchtower Corp "religion." With an ad, craigslist postings and a website too as well as the youtube video, everyone will see what a destructive religion she is caught up in. I'm so glad you aren't going to let Watchtower Corp get away with this.
60
I can't take this crap anymore. It's time to get pro-active!
by BONEZZ in
1. jw
2. experiences
ive been around this board for quite awhile.

it has helped immensely.

lately i just read everyone elses experiences and try and forget the whole nightmare...but i cant.
laverite

Wow, the video sounds like a great idea -- something like that deserves to be seen widely. JWs are so two faced, it's sickening. Let the world know the truth.
And, an ad in your local paper and on craigslist (missed connections?) would be a good addition. Finally, a G-ma website with the video, the whole story written out for the world to see. People need to be warned about the harmful nature of JWs.
33
help with sociologist friend...
by losingit in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
i have a friend who is a sociologist.

this person does research on being gay and mormon, and will shortly come out with a book.

we had a lengthy discussion about cults (in general, and jws in particular), and basically the sociologist believes that all religions are cults.
laverite

Practioner? Wat da wat? How did that get into my post?
Practitioner, rather. LOL.
33
help with sociologist friend...
by losingit in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
i have a friend who is a sociologist.

this person does research on being gay and mormon, and will shortly come out with a book.

we had a lengthy discussion about cults (in general, and jws in particular), and basically the sociologist believes that all religions are cults.
laverite

Steve2,
My primary field is also psychology, at least according to my academic title "Professor of Psychology." But I tend to work at the intersections of psychology and sociology and have taught within both psychology and sociology departments. I was previously a senior lecturer in psychology at a university in England. I have no experience with psychology in NZ. But in all of my professional experiences, I have personally never come across academic researchers needing to be familiar with popular or nonacademic perspectives or general marketing publications for their academic research. That notion is completely foreign to me. The only time I could see it as being possibly relevant in some way is if a rsearcher were studying self help movements, etc. I could also perhaps see this as also true within some clinical or applied areas but I don't know for sure about that as I have no background in those areas so I am not qualified to comment (other than guessing).
As far as your comment on the OP, I agree completely with what you said -- I'd mention him as a nonacademic practioner.
33
help with sociologist friend...
by losingit in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
i have a friend who is a sociologist.

this person does research on being gay and mormon, and will shortly come out with a book.

we had a lengthy discussion about cults (in general, and jws in particular), and basically the sociologist believes that all religions are cults.
laverite

Steve2 -
I disagree. Hassan is a mental health clinician and his books are self help books, not academic. I wouldn't expect researchers on cults to necessarily know of him or his work, unless they are looking at mental health resources for exiting cults. There really would be very little need for sociologists specializing in cults to know of him.
33
help with sociologist friend...
by losingit in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
i have a friend who is a sociologist.

this person does research on being gay and mormon, and will shortly come out with a book.

we had a lengthy discussion about cults (in general, and jws in particular), and basically the sociologist believes that all religions are cults.
laverite

P.S. Sociologists do not define all religions as cults. He was probably speaking off the cuff, expressing his own personal disdain for religion.