Thank you Palmtree - I know that he is watching over me and that gives me a lot comfort
Happyexjw
i know many of you have sent emails to emma britton, who hosted the show this morning with our own cantleave and angus.
(btw, you guys did amazing!).
i sent my email to her as well and wanted to see if anyone else wants to share their emails.
Thank you Palmtree - I know that he is watching over me and that gives me a lot comfort
Happyexjw
i have just recieved a call from emma, she has been in-undated with emails and has pointed out that as she simply a presenter for bbc radio somerset, a local station, please only email her only if you live in south west england.. her editor has seen the magnitude of the response and realises that this could a big story and looking at escalating to a national level, so the point has been made.. also she wanted to point out that she is only the presenter and the interview and research was undertaken by tammy macallister and she deserves the credit.. it's great to see the exjw community spring into action, but please respect emma's in box!.
Also LOL @ Outlaw, you always make me smile
I am really pleased this has caught the attention off the editor, I really do hope that this goes nationally.
Happyexjw
i don't want to hijack that thread with the british interview of an ex-jw who is now shunned by his mother and brother(s).
the interviewer then properly and fairly contacted a wt official who gave the party line answer.
those of us who have really studied wt references know that this lawyer-like answer actually follows wt teaching.
If we are going with the literal / leaglistic interpretation of that scripture, then as Sister's we are all excluded from the command. Paul did not say brother or sister just brother
Happyexjw
i know many of you have sent emails to emma britton, who hosted the show this morning with our own cantleave and angus.
(btw, you guys did amazing!).
i sent my email to her as well and wanted to see if anyone else wants to share their emails.
Heres my email
Dear Emma
I really enjoyed your show today and I would like to thank you for your coverage on highlighting this important and disturbing issue. Many people that come into contact are not really aware of disfellowshipping and its implications until they are fully indoctrinated.
I too was disfellowshipped when I was 18, in an unfair way. I was born into this religion so had no choice when I was growing up but to be part of the Jehovah’s Witnesses organisation. As a young child I was sexually abused by someone who was a friend of my parents he was a ministerial servant (a position before becoming an elder) at the time of abuse. I told my parents a few years later. They told the elders in their congregation but they were told that as it happened a few years ago they couldn’t do anything. I was told to "put my trust into Jehovah and he will deal with it". So that was what I did, I really tried hard to be a good witness girl and was appointed an elders wife to study with me as I was seen to be spiritually weak. I disclosed my abuse in tears to her and her husband, he immediately contacted Bethel in London and told me that it was being dealt with but I wouldn’t probably hear anything but the elder never contacted my parents to say what I had just told them. I was not encouraged to go to the police or court as this would bring reproach on Jehovah’s name, again I was told to just trust in Jehovah. I got baptised at the age of 14 years old, and later discovered that my abuser had been appointed an elder. He passed away a few years ago, and had a funeral with all the honours. The fact that he was allowed to be put in a position of trust with families and young children made me sick. I started losing faith and by the time I was 17 I was rebelling. I was seeing worldly boys behind my parent’s backs and I also started smoking which my mum found out.
The elders wanted to meet with me but I didn’t want to speak to them. They come around my parent’s house one day and I hid in the bathroom refusing to talk to them. Eventually I let one of them in, I was given a choice to repent of my sins and stop smoking or be disfellowshipped and be thrown out into Satan’s world and lose my relationship with my parents and friends in the religion. I said that I was confused and didn’t know. A few days later they called my parents and told them they had made a decision to disfellowship me, and that was that. No proper Judicial Committee nothing.
Although my parents were still talking to me because I was still living at home with them, they made it clear how I had disappointed them and how hurt they were, that I will die at Armageddon. I also lost all contact with my friends in the congregation I went to. They would not even look me in the eye in passing in the street. I ended up on a downward spiral of self destruction with no care of my well being, as I had no social skills in the outside world.
I have been doing research on the history of the organisation and discovered so many things to make them a false religion.
My father passed away on 5th November 2010, and this was the first time I would have to be in contact with JW's since I left. The elder who my parents told my abuse too was at my parent’s house, he told me that he would come and see me as "a nice girl like you should be in the truth". I told him that the religion nearly destroyed me, he replied with "well it was only one person". I wanted to hit him, but responded with " no it was the conduct of the society and also I have researched the history and find them not to be who they claim to be, but if you want to come around for a chat your more than welcome", needless to say I have not heard from him since, he didn’t even turn up to my dad’s funeral. At the funeral I was shunned by all the JW's, they avoided any eye contact. The same people that I grew up with, it was heartbreaking. With the exception of one who touched my arm and said how sorry she was in my dad passing. A few days later this person then got a telling off for speaking with me, even though she explained that I had just lost my dad and was giving me some comfort they told her that as I was disfellowshipped she was wrong to even do that.
I am seen as the bad one, yet none of them really knows the truth about my situation. I am told by my mum that I made that decision to get baptised, I knew what the consequences would be if I did not comply to their rules, It is my fault that they are no longer able to socialise with me, because I had turned my back on Jehovah. It really does grieve me.
I hope that there are more programmes like the one you did today to highlight the issue of shunning and its destructive nature. The general public need to be made aware of all the hidden bits if they are considering joining this religion.
Thank you for reading,
Kind regards
Happyexjw
i can't believe it.
probably haven't been out long enough to know they lie like this.
now i just heard it with my own ears.
My exact thoughts Sir82 - They are so deceptive, if they acutally looked in a mirror they would see Satan staring right back at them
Has anyone recieved a reply from Emma to their emails. I recieved the following
Hi Sharon Thanks for your email and for taking the time to send me your story. All credit must go to my colleague Tammy McAllister who put the report together. Regards Emma
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Emma Britton - Presenter
BBC Somerset - 95.5FM & 1566AM
E: [email protected]
W: bbc.co.uk/somerset
I will add my email to the email thread, but at the moment when im on that thread it doesnt show the option to post a reply, my pc playing up I think. Though my email was not put aswell as some, its more a personal experience. I really do hope that this maybe the start of someone making a documentary on the Shunning Policy.
Well done Cantleave - you were our voice and you made us all proud today Thank you
Sharon
Happyexjw
i can't believe it.
probably haven't been out long enough to know they lie like this.
now i just heard it with my own ears.
I have also sent an email to Emma, thanking her for highlighting this issue. I have also shared my experience of being disfellowshipped. I hope that her inbox is full of emails with others experiences at the hands of the WTS and that it inspires a thorugh look into the borg and hopefully more media attention.
Happyexjw
http://news.bbc.co.uk/local/somerset/hi/people_and_places/religion_and_ethics/newsid_9367000/9367220.stm.
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Cantleave big hugs .... you will do well, and a personal thank you from me for bringing this to the attention of the general public, its about time our voice was heard in the uk.
I will definately be listening in.
Happyexjw
i've overheard from a couple of elders,that they are going to be getting some new information on the blood issue.
now,i understand in the witness world,this could all be much ado about nothing.
but, does anyone know what this info could be?.
If it does turn out to be a conscience matter (publicly) it will still have implication on the R&F consciences privately (formally D'Aing yourself) brining it into the same lines as Bulgaria.
Maybe word has spread about Bulgaria and people are questioning this, with the leagal department bigger than the GB's egos they are realising R & F are maybe awakeing, especially those that have lost ones who have not accepted no blood and passed away becuase of it and then the change to blood fractions, but if they were allowed blood fraction as a conscsience matter they may now still be around.
We are now living in an age where anyone can access information instantly, the society are aware of this, and this scares them especially their legal department. They have to make some changes otherwise if they carry on with the no blood stance publically then they could well be sued and tried for a big religous genocide, now that would cost the WTS financially and the towers come crumbling down.
Damage limitation, lets face it most R & F never batted an eyelid to the new generations teaching - mostly cos they were either asleep, planning where to go for their evening meal or compling their shopping lists or dont really care as long as they appear to be nodding clapping in the right places they will get the chance to pet lions in the a perfect new world. They are very cleaver when they make changes they do it in a way that no one really notice. They have got away with many doctrinal changes and though a few have left it is not compared to witnesses watching them being sued for genocide and it being played out in court on all the news channels for everyone to see, how will the the GB cope rotting in prision and losing all their power and glory and money.
Ok maybe im being too optimistic on this and maybe i just saw a pig fly past my window, but it would be great if that is the case, many lives will not be lost to man made lies. If this change just makes one person think about what they are being taught and leaves then thats another person who has finally found innner peace, and thats a good thing.
Now off the the drunken gibberish thread lol
Happyexjw
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Factfinder - I read from a JW poster on Jehovahs Witnesses, News, Library, History,Videos and Talks that the theme is "Walk by Faith, Not by Sight" not sure if its true, but if that is the theme im looking forward to hearing the current BS from the FDS if last years BS is anything to go by, it make me truly happy that I am no longer associated with borg , im so glad that im no longer under their emotional abuse.
Happyexjw