BBC news re Nathan Phillips xjw
by Curtains 58 Replies latest jw friends
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Amelia Ashton
Cantleave is there now and is going to be interviewed too.
It was supposed to have been aired today but now it will be either Tuesday or Wednesday. If you miss the live broadcast hopefully it will still be possible to hear it for up to a week after.
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Curtains
thanks amelia
Jehovahs witnesses like to say that shunning is a private matter between the disfellowshipped one and those who wish to shun him and that the organisation has nothing to do with it. but the question is what would happen to families who refused to shun their disfellowshippped family members. They too would be disfellowshipped.
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blondie
A spokesman for the Jehovah's Witness headquarters in London said Nathan's situation was a "private matter" between him and his mother.
They leave out the fact that if his mother chose to talk to him that she would disfellowshipped...private only if the elders are automatically part of every "private" matter re jws.
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Amelia Ashton
Lets hope some other radio stations pick this up or even a television channel.
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wobble
I intend to listen, and then get in touch with the BBC with a view to their doing a similar programme nationally.
Cantleave pointed out to me on the 'phone this morning that they may even be interested from a Consumer Programme point of view, not just Religious Affairs, after all JW's sell their religion at the door, but craftily keep this info, about families being torn apart ,quiet.
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wannabefree
According to the "Shepherd the Flock" book, what I understand is that communication with disfellowshipped family members will result in quite a severe attempt at readjusting the view of the Witness family member, if they chose to continue associating in a non-spiritual manner and not condone the reason for disfellowshipping, they will not be disfellowshipped, however, they will not be viewed as examplary and therefore may not have any "special priveledges of service" (ie elder, ms, pioneer, aux. pioneer, reader, mic handler ...)
Of course, I doubt that this option is presented as an option and most likely the meek sheep would honor the shunning in most cases.
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free2think
bttt
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cofty
A spokesman for the Jehovah's Witness headquarters in London said Nathan's situation was a "private matter" between him and his mother.
I wonder if that was from the infamous Paul Gillies who told the lies about the UN and about blood being a personal decision?
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Black Sheep
The official stance is on their public website for all to see.
http://www.watchtower.org/e/19880415/article_01.htm
Cutting off from the Christian congregation does not involve immediate death, so family ties continue. Thus, a man who is disfellowshipped or who disassociates himself may still live at home with his Christian wife and faithful children. Respect for God's judgments and the congregation's action will move the wife and children to recognize that by his course, he altered the spiritual bond that existed between them. Yet, since his being disfellowshipped does not end their blood ties or marriage relationship, normal family affections and dealings can continue.
The situation is different if the disfellowshipped or disassociated one is a relative living outside the immediate family circle and home. It might be possible to have almost no contact at all with the relative. Even if there were some family matters requiring contact, this certainly would be kept to a minimum, in line with the divine principle: "Quit mixing in company with anyone called a brother that is a fornicator or a greedy person [or guilty of another gross sin], . . . not even eating with such a man." —1 Corinthians 5:11.