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  New letter RE public witnessing.. omg they are setting up stands!!!

  by BigE in

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  this link contains news of a letter sent to the elders about witnesses setting up stands to peddle literature in public places!

  how desperate are they?

  it sounds sad honestly... and they are told not to argue with apostates .

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  What with all the shootings going on in public places, it might be good to have a stack of books to dive behind. Life saving information indeed !
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  Does it get boring....

  by FaceTheFacts in

  1. jw
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  does it become boring/monotonous reading thread after thread about how terrible the gb is and how much of a cult jws are...etc.

  etc.?.

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  I'm used to being bored. After all I did spend my childhood and young adulthood in endless meetings and assemblies hearing about how wonderful they are and hearing them explain once again how a lot of that stuff they taught me a few years ago has been changed once again. I also spent a lot of time hunkered down waiting for the end to arrive so.....
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  Your earliest doubt?

  by Apognophos in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  this might be an unfair question for those who have been out of the organization for decades, but i'm wondering if any of you remember your earliest doubt -- maybe something odd that occurred to you as a kid (if you were a jw then).

  please try to limit to two doubts at the most :-).

  i think my first "doubt" was simply realizing that at the time of the flood, every animal that wasn't in the ark died (well, besides the fish, supposedly).

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  I think I always had a hunch there was more to the story than I was being told. We used to go Back Packing or tent camping in Mt Rainier National Park a lot when I was a kid. We had to hang our food to keep the bears away and take certain precautions to avoid encounters with them. I remember hiking by a mountain lake or waterfall and my Mom saying " Isn't it great to be out among Jehovah's creation ?" "Isn't he a loving God for providing such a beautiful home for us? " I said something like "Yeah, but why did he have to make it so there are also bears here that want to eat us ?" There was silence from Mom but I noticed my non JW Dad was supressing a smirk.
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  What do you mean?! I ALWAYS go to the beach after service and wear long pants and button up shirts while I play a game in the sand with my family! Sometimes I wear button up long sleeve shirts too!

  by Crisis of Conscience in

  1. social
  2. humour

  the wts likes to imply how jws should dress in and outside of the hall.

  you always want to set an example.. so i couldn't help but share this beauty in the january 15th, 2013, study edition of the watchtower.

  i always go to the beach like this!

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  exwhyzee

  The world is about to come to an end any day and all they can think to do is play ball when people's very lives are at stake !
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  Pedophile out of court settlements

  by exwhyzee in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i was listening to the candace conti interview on youtube and they mentioned out of court settlements the society has made to pedophile victims using funds donated for the world wide work.. does anyone know of a list showing how many cases there has been and who the society settled out of court with ?

  is that kind of thing something you can find on record somewhere ?.

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  EXWHYZEE: Why would they shun you for mentioning a news story?

  When you tell a JW something they didn't know about the organization they have built thier lives around, it often blows them away. Thier faith is so flimsy that they would rather kill the messenger than acknowledge there could possibly be any truth to what he has told them. They must feel that Jehovah's spirit is no match against the influence of someone who has left the organization. She has been like a Sister to me for 30 years but she has indicated she isn't sure if she wants to see us when we arrive. Her loyalty to Jehovah has been challenged.
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  Pedophile out of court settlements

  by exwhyzee in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i was listening to the candace conti interview on youtube and they mentioned out of court settlements the society has made to pedophile victims using funds donated for the world wide work.. does anyone know of a list showing how many cases there has been and who the society settled out of court with ?

  is that kind of thing something you can find on record somewhere ?.

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  Thanks guys...that's just what I was looking for.

  We have a very close and long time JW friend who lives in California but never heard about the Conti Case or any of the pedophile settlements.

  She is about to shun us for telling her about this....she's totally blown away and denies it could be true.
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  Pedophile out of court settlements

  by exwhyzee in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i was listening to the candace conti interview on youtube and they mentioned out of court settlements the society has made to pedophile victims using funds donated for the world wide work.. does anyone know of a list showing how many cases there has been and who the society settled out of court with ?

  is that kind of thing something you can find on record somewhere ?.

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  exwhyzee

  I was listening to the Candace Conti interview on Youtube and they mentioned out of court settlements the society has made to pedophile victims using funds donated for the world wide work.

  Does anyone know of a list showing how many cases there has been and who the society settled out of court with ? Is that kind of thing something you can find on record somewhere ?
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  Do Witnesses Ever Talk About Their Living Forever And Never Dying?

  by minimus in

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  my 86 year old mother stopped believing she was going into paradise earth without dying first, about 10 years ago.

  my aunt used to think she was going to make it through the great tribulation.

  even a week before she died, she clung on to this fairy tale.. do you think jws believe they will never die at all and will, in their lifetime, be on a paradise earth to live forever?.

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  I think JW's think they should beleive they will live forever but most don't really fathom it really happening and on some level don't believe it at all. It's just an unspoken assumption that everyone in the Hall beleives it and you're the only one that doesn't toatlly buy in to it. Everything runs smoothly so long as no one says anything about it outloud. That's why at JW get togethers, no one ever talks about it because God, the Bible and eternal life are subjects not open to discussion or any kind of debate.
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  What was it about Bethel that woke you up?

  by cognisonance in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  one the how many exbethelites thread it was mentioned that some think one either leaves down the path towards apostasy or as a 100% true believer.

  i'm curious what experiences did you face at bethel that woke you up (or started to at least)?.

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  It's too exhausting for me to hash over my experience in Bethel. I had some good times but after I saw for myself what went on there, I never felt the same about the religion again. You can beleive what everyone said in their posts so far. Just reading them brings it all back to me in detail. All I can tell you is that when I left and came home, for the first year or so I was asked to speak about my Bethel experience at get togethers,meetings and assembly parts. I always declined. People thought it was because I was humble and didn't want to draw attention to myself. The truth of the matter was I simply couldn't in good conscience paint the same misleading and rosy picture that was painted for me about Bethel and I still half beleived that maybe there was something bad about me for having such a low opinion of the organization, even after having all my money stolen out of my room by my houskeeper Dorreen and her husband. I went through the public school system without so much as a scratch only to volunteer at God's house and see the craziest stuff going on amongst people who were pretending to be such a good example and were looked up to by so many.

  I still occasionally have nightmares where I dream that I've signed up for Bethel and there's no way to get out of it.
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  Are you at the point of your life where you speak out boldly with JWs?

  by jam in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  what a wonderful feeling.

  they think i am nuts.

  lol.

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  You know you've made progress when you pass the stage where you feel the need to speak out boldly with JW's. You realize that what they think or beleive no longer matters to you or anyone else.

  It's a great thing to be able to smile knowingly when you hear them spouting their skewed JW'isms and see the puzzled look on their faces as they wonder why you are looking at them with such pity and understanding. Much more effective than giving them justification for treating you as an apostate.

  I know a former married Brother and Sister who left on their own yet were being shunned by their former JW friends as if they had been DF'd. One time they saw a snooty Sister who snubbed them when they came face to face in the supermarket. The former brother said loudly to his wife " Hey KAREN....LOOK AT WHAT THE CAT DRAGGED IN " Seeing the expression on her face as she scurried away was very gratifying for him in the moment but he realized later that he probably could have handled that situation with more grace and style.