Haha - bugger stereotypes. Sydney had the wettest xmess I can ever remember. Last night's news, showed famous Bondi beach almost deserted. Only a few dedicated surfies riding waves.
Too late to see what Austrailia is like at Christmas time but looking forward to being in Hawaii,Tahiti and Austrailia in February....hope the weather's good by then.
have you ever wanted to have a witty comeback for a jw's thought stopping platitude or slogun, but couldn't think of one to plant a seed of doubt in a jw?
please share your witty comebacks and a bible verse(s) that contradicts watchtower thought stopping platitudes and slogans.. here are a couple of mine.. 1) watchtower thougnt-stopping platitude - "where else will we go?".
response - "don't you mean to whom?
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our old jw friend who is about to shun us says,there's nothing in the bible that contradicts itself?.
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can anyone think of certain scriptures that could prove otherwise?.
You guys are amazing....thanks so much for taking the time to provide this information. Esp. Leolala, Terry and Finkelstien. You have no idea how helpful this will be !
our old jw friend who is about to shun us says,there's nothing in the bible that contradicts itself?.
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can anyone think of certain scriptures that could prove otherwise?.
Our old JW Friend who is about to shun us says,there's nothing in the Bible that contradicts itself?
Can anyone think of certain scriptures that could prove otherwise?
this link contains news of a letter sent to the elders about witnesses setting up stands to peddle literature in public places!
how desperate are they?
it sounds sad honestly... and they are told not to argue with apostates .
What with all the shootings going on in public places, it might be good to have a stack of books to dive behind. Life saving information indeed !
does it become boring/monotonous reading thread after thread about how terrible the gb is and how much of a cult jws are...etc.
etc.?.
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I'm used to being bored. After all I did spend my childhood and young adulthood in endless meetings and assemblies hearing about how wonderful they are and hearing them explain once again how a lot of that stuff they taught me a few years ago has been changed once again. I also spent a lot of time hunkered down waiting for the end to arrive so.....
this might be an unfair question for those who have been out of the organization for decades, but i'm wondering if any of you remember your earliest doubt -- maybe something odd that occurred to you as a kid (if you were a jw then).
please try to limit to two doubts at the most :-).
i think my first "doubt" was simply realizing that at the time of the flood, every animal that wasn't in the ark died (well, besides the fish, supposedly).
I think I always had a hunch there was more to the story than I was being told. We used to go Back Packing or tent camping in Mt Rainier National Park a lot when I was a kid. We had to hang our food to keep the bears away and take certain precautions to avoid encounters with them. I remember hiking by a mountain lake or waterfall and my Mom saying " Isn't it great to be out among Jehovah's creation ?" "Isn't he a loving God for providing such a beautiful home for us? " I said something like "Yeah, but why did he have to make it so there are also bears here that want to eat us ?" There was silence from Mom but I noticed my non JW Dad was supressing a smirk.
the wts likes to imply how jws should dress in and outside of the hall.
you always want to set an example.. so i couldn't help but share this beauty in the january 15th, 2013, study edition of the watchtower.
i always go to the beach like this!
The world is about to come to an end any day and all they can think to do is play ball when people's very lives are at stake !
i was listening to the candace conti interview on youtube and they mentioned out of court settlements the society has made to pedophile victims using funds donated for the world wide work.. does anyone know of a list showing how many cases there has been and who the society settled out of court with ?
is that kind of thing something you can find on record somewhere ?.
EXWHYZEE: Why would they shun you for mentioning a news story?
When you tell a JW something they didn't know about the organization they have built thier lives around, it often blows them away. Thier faith is so flimsy that they would rather kill the messenger than acknowledge there could possibly be any truth to what he has told them. They must feel that Jehovah's spirit is no match against the influence of someone who has left the organization. She has been like a Sister to me for 30 years but she has indicated she isn't sure if she wants to see us when we arrive. Her loyalty to Jehovah has been challenged.
i was listening to the candace conti interview on youtube and they mentioned out of court settlements the society has made to pedophile victims using funds donated for the world wide work.. does anyone know of a list showing how many cases there has been and who the society settled out of court with ?
is that kind of thing something you can find on record somewhere ?.
Thanks guys...that's just what I was looking for.
We have a very close and long time JW friend who lives in California but never heard about the Conti Case or any of the pedophile settlements.
She is about to shun us for telling her about this....she's totally blown away and denies it could be true.
