Posts by exwhyzee

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Flashback to the sixties Seatle

by Tater-T in

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so while making a you tube video of my dad today, i came across this in a dvd of home movies from way back, i didn't even know about it... originally shot on super 8 film, shot off screen with camcorder in 1992, with open mic, transfered to dvd in 2010 .. made to you tube in 2013.... check out the food service, without paper plates no less .. it's only a couple minutes on convention then, a little seatle conventions were a family vacation when we were growing up ... .

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=teslivkoak4.

exwhyzee

Ok just ran it by mom.. it was 1970 Vancouver BC.. for the convention and they went to Seatle to..

I was at that one for sure. Vancouver is only about a 3 hour drive from here. I knew it wasn't Sick's Seattle Stadium in the Video because of the background scenery. 4 years later we had the International Assembly there in Vancouver and that's where I was baptized. The then popular country singer Glen Campbell was supposedly there to be baptized too. People were reportedly running around with their songbooks looking for him to autograph them. They had a talk on the assembly that made specific mention about not idolizing things in the world. (of course, they say that at every assembly) They also had a big plumbing problem going on and lack of bathrooms. There were long lines of people waiting to get inside these makeshift stalls that weren't working properly and they had brothers who were assigned to walk up and down the long lines past all the waiting people shouting " Brothers and Sisters....FLUSH FOR B.M. ONLY !!!" Of course we kids thought that was so weird and hilarious at the same time. There were volunteers walking around with nicely hand painted signs that said " Quiet Please " or "Keep Moving" and "Flush for B.M. Only" as well. We were glad not to have gotten that assignment.

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Flashback to the sixties Seatle

by Tater-T in

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so while making a you tube video of my dad today, i came across this in a dvd of home movies from way back, i didn't even know about it... originally shot on super 8 film, shot off screen with camcorder in 1992, with open mic, transfered to dvd in 2010 .. made to you tube in 2013.... check out the food service, without paper plates no less .. it's only a couple minutes on convention then, a little seatle conventions were a family vacation when we were growing up ... .

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=teslivkoak4.

exwhyzee

I'm sure I was at that Convention. It was in Seattle Center Memorial Stadium in the same complex as the Space Needle. I was the little boy in the bleachers scared to death by all the adults who were saying we had to be prepared for Armegeddon and an all out attack on Jehovah's people by Satan the Devil, any day. I had a notebook and was told to write Jehovah, Jesus and Satan at the top of the page. Then everytime the speaker said one of those names, I was suppose to make a hash mark under the corresponding name. At the end we had to count up all the Jehovah's , Jesus' and Santan's we had heard.

I often wonder what it would have been like to grow up without the expectation of my father and the rest of world being destroyed by God because they didn't want to become Jehovah's Witnesses? What would it have been like to spend 8 hours a day 5 days in a row, learning something that would have benefited me now?

I used to like that they served cantaloupe sliced in half with a scoop of ice cream in the center. When I got a little older I always volunteered to work in food service mostly because I wanted to wear one of those paper hats but I also worried that if I didn't, it would be displeasing to Jehovah and I might not be considered worthy to be in the New System. Starting at about 9 I worked at a Pop Stand and I remember having an apron with pockets that were filled with change. I can't beleive they let a little kid do that and expected me to keep track of the money, but I did it. I used to fill up about a dozen cups and have them ready for the crowd because I didn't want anyone to get mad at me for having to wait. There was a Brother who went from stand to stand and monitored us. I remember getting counseled not to have so many cups of Pop ready on my table because they'd go flat before anyone had bought them. I remember being just crestfallen that I had failed at my job.

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Beyond Bitterness?

by DogGone in

like many, my path to the ttatt was a long and painful journey.

i wasnt mature or intellectually honest enough to "wake up" while still an active witness.

(i applaud those who have awaken while active; that is mental rigour i wish i had!

exwhyzee

It took a lot of digging and reading for me to little by little get rid of the mental residue left over from being a life long witness. It is quite an accomplishment to rid oneself of that " But what if they really are right ?" feeling. The best thing for me was seeing the misinformation in the old literature such as that old 1984 Watchtower with all the (long dead) elderly Bethelites looking heavenward, enntitled, 1914...The Generation That Will Not Pass Away. Their own publications containing misinformation, coupled with a death of a my Dad over the blood issue as well as the injustice treatment of a family member by the Elders gave me the courage to act on what I had realized decades ago. If someone is carrying around Watchtower learned guilt, I think it's best for them to rid themselves of it by looking at all the mistakes, lies and wrong infromation in the publications from the past in which they learned "the truth" in the first place.

Too bad there isn't one book or collection of information where it's all contained in one place.

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Jehovahs Witness Expectations of Eternity

by Cold Steel in

or do they believe they'll be able to visit other worlds without them?

when resurrected, would they be able to walk through walls as jesus did, or would they be able to create wormholes just by thinking about it and travel by their own power?

and when they had visited every known place in the universe, what would they do then?.

exwhyzee

Most longtime JW's I knew didn't really talk about the New System with any kind of detail. Most just used it as a nice picture to hold in thier heads to get them through this life and blot out the thought of dying like everyone else who has ever lived.

I did hear some on occasion who thought we'd go back to the horse and buggy, living off the land days. Others thought with perfect minds, we'd come up with things that we haven't even thought of yet and possibly populate other planets ( Well what else could Jehovah have made them for???)

Most who talked a lot about the details with any intensity were gone in a short time, they were mostly talking outloud to reaffirm their own doubts . Long time JW's have stopped talking about it as they've heard it all before and it's too late to really matter to them now. Knowing how close it is, is the major thing rather than what it will be like.

Now that I think about it, the Watchtower literature never really spoke in much detail about the New System but they did talk a lot about destruction, the end of this system and the tribulation then they let the paradise pictures in the publicatons do all the talking and by comparrison, living in one of those photos was a lot more attractive than having God kill you.

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Letter from and to my JW Niece

by Nosferatu in

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my niece is on fb.

she's a very creative and lovely person, but she's the only other family member i have who's a jw.

her mother got booted out for smoking, and her brother just seems to know it's a bunch of crap.. on fb, i posted a funny status update that went something like this: "my mother brought me up and hoped that i would grow into a career that would fulfill her dreams.

exwhyzee

Hey Uncle Ben.

You can sorta' see where she is comming from. If you post these kind of comments, knowing how seriously JW's take themselves, you have to expect that they will take it as a personal put down. I think I might have...or at least I would have known you were making a jab at something I still valued.

If you had former co workers as facebook friends and posted a comment such as " Glad I was able to find a real job after working for a go nowhere company for so long" , your former co workers who still work there might be offended or at least feel worse about their jobs than they already do.

It seems like your Niece was reasonable though, she mentioned wanting to see you soon. If you haven't sent your reply already, I wouldn't. It might be best to simply say, " Oops....didn't mean to offend anyone, humor, in part is how I got myself through a difficult time period in my life"

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Email from Dad

by nicsfreedom in

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although it is far less rude than the correspondence i received 6 months ago i just received this email from my father.

i have not responded.. "mom and i would greatly appciate it if you would return all the family pictures.

you can of course make copies if you wish, although it doesn't appear its necessary.

exwhyzee

The cheese may have finally slipped off Dad's sandwich.

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Do You Suffer From: Bitchy Resting Face

by frankiespeakin in

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3v98cpxnisk.

exwhyzee

My Wife's bossy dissapproving oldest sister has this. I call it "JUDGIE FACE"

Rene Zellweger has this malady too. (click here and scroll down)

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My former JW Niece posted this on her facebook.

by exwhyzee in

i can only imagine what the impact will be from her remaining jw family.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zjx2owzqopk.

exwhyzee

I can only imagine what the impact will be from her remaining JW family. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJx2oWZQoPk

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Former Long Time Elder, part 3

by James Jackson in

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to answer some of your questions.

i phone my son on thursday and was able to help him get his paper work in order for, get this: "college".

we're good.. the wife and i have about 10 family members that are jw's as well as over 12 close friends, 100's of friends in 5 states.

exwhyzee

They can change the meaning of the word "Generation" they can allow Blood Fractions, they can wrongly predict the end of the system in 1975, they can require you to shun your family members but if they were to ban watching Football, there'd be a mass exdous from the Organization...and "they" know that.

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Religion vs Technology

by Suspicious in

jw vs technology.

ive been doing more and more research in regards to the history of jw.

the more i find out the more shocking it is.

exwhyzee

As long as there is a market, there will always be a product. If not the JWs, then some other cultic movement will fill in their shoes.

If you build it they will come. For instane, no matter how ugly of a car Detroit builds, someone will always buy it so long as it goes to market. The majority will walk in the opposite direction but there will be a certain cross section of the population that will for their own reasons see something that no one else does and they'll defend their choice to the bitter end.

Some people would buy a whitewashed grave if it were presented to them convincingly enough.