When the fantasy in our head, doesn' match the reality of the world around us...cognitive disonence is a means to make sense of things until we are capable of handeling the truth. Until one reaches a place where one can handle reality, it is utterly abhorrant to think that ones core beliefs could be inacurate or false and even otherwise rational people will believe just about anything in order to make reality match the fantasy they want to believe.
exwhyzee
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Cognitive disonence at work...?
by Aussie Oz ini was watching a documentary the other week on a notorious crime boss from the 50s into the 80s.. one part of the story was from his son (by his wife) and the other from his daughter (by his mistress).. what struck me was that the daughter was totally unable to see that her 'daddy' was some sort of criminal.
no matter what evidence there was from media, courts and witnesses to the cruel deeds of this man.. her half brother was simply lying for some reasons only known to him, some hidden agenda she did not know.. because she had only ever seen and experienced his loving side, it was not possible for her to consider anything else.. this got me thinking:.
if a jw has only ever seen and experienced loving elders, guidance and a really happy jw upbringing, only known the 'good side' (and i am sure there are quite a few that have had charmed lives) then it will impossible for them to even conceive the notion that there is a 'bad side'.. on the flip side, if a jw has only experienced hitler elders, abuse and seen only double standards and lies, then they too will be unable to see the 'good side' for want of a better word.
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Were you suprised at how little the "world" knows about JW's
by donny ini was a jehovah's witness for 10 long years and during that time i developed the opinion that most of the world knew what we believed, but chose to ignore it and go about doing their own thing.
then in the almost 18 years i have been out, i have come to understand that the outside world knows very little about jw's.
other than they don't take blood transfusions and do not celebrate holidays, most people have no idea what we believe and only think of them as another offbeat religion among many.. did anyone else think that the jw religion was more known than it actually is?.
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I read somewhere that it is typical of Cults to create an imagined "Them" against "Us" mentality where the Cult member feels safe within the confines of the Cult and is fearful and distrustful of anyone on the outside. Looking back over the years, not one person was ever unkind or even thought twice about my religion. Teachers bent over backward to accomodate me not participating in regular class activities. To hear it told at the meetings....it was almost a virtue to be hated by the world around you.
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This Prince fellow is getting more threads than the new "generation" teaching...
by undercover injust sayin, is all....
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exwhyzee
Maybe you meant to say the artist Prince, is getting more threads than the teaching "formerly known as" This Genereation.
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How do you suppose....
by exwhyzee inthe unique animals of austrailia ( kangaroo, walaby,koala bear, platapus etc) found their way to that isolated body of land once noah let them off the ark?
if they migrated there from mt.
ararat, it seems there would be fossils of them found between there and austrailia.
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You sound utterly exausted.....like you were putting way more into this informal discussion that was necessary. I suppose all that wishing of peace and slaving for your Lord has tuckered you out. Have a nice lie down (ever so dear but overly serious one) and try again in the AM, (kiss)
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How do you suppose....
by exwhyzee inthe unique animals of austrailia ( kangaroo, walaby,koala bear, platapus etc) found their way to that isolated body of land once noah let them off the ark?
if they migrated there from mt.
ararat, it seems there would be fossils of them found between there and austrailia.
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exwhyzee
An interesting site with scientific answers
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How do you suppose....
by exwhyzee inthe unique animals of austrailia ( kangaroo, walaby,koala bear, platapus etc) found their way to that isolated body of land once noah let them off the ark?
if they migrated there from mt.
ararat, it seems there would be fossils of them found between there and austrailia.
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Exactly how I look at it DGP you said it better than I could.
In one of the Societies publications they said that Noah was on the Ark about a year. Even if it were only 54 days as you were thinking, it seems like the worms, ants, termites, and other organisims necessary for an ecosystem to enable plant life to grow once Noah to get off the Ark and start cultivating crops, would be gone..drowned, crushed to death under tons of water. Not to mention, the great mud slides that must have occured world wide. I could see some trees surviving if they were only flooded over at trunk level, but the earth was supposedly covered up to the mountain tops with of water cutting off sunlight and oxygen/carbon dioxide to the plants. Not to mention the great mud slides that must have occured. Maybe the olive branch came from a tree on the tip top of a mountain...but I don't know if olive trees survive at that altitude.
As far as boats go. If others did board existing boats, they could have fished for their food but maybe the sea life was killed off when all that fresh water was introduced into the briny environment they depended on to live. There is the possibility that with all that rain pounding down, the boats would have filled up with water and sunk.
Anyway the Society still views the story of Noah and the Ark as a literal event. That along with the inaccurate claims they've made regarding certain dates makes me question every other interpretation they have of the Bible they make as well. Including the claim that they are being directed by God 100%. and that anyone who isn't one of them or questions them is a gonner !
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How do you suppose....
by exwhyzee inthe unique animals of austrailia ( kangaroo, walaby,koala bear, platapus etc) found their way to that isolated body of land once noah let them off the ark?
if they migrated there from mt.
ararat, it seems there would be fossils of them found between there and austrailia.
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Wow...AGuest....I like how your mind works....ever think about starting your own religion and publishing your own literature ?
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What Unusual Watchtower Suggestions Do You Recall?
by laverite intoday, i was on yahoo and clicked on link for "unusual ways" to stay cool this summer.
among the suggestions are putting your sheets in the freezer for one to two hours before bedtime and using an organic cotton pillow (is an organic cotton pillow cooler than 100% cotton regular pillow?
): http://shine.yahoo.com/event/green/five-unusual-ways-to-stay-cool-1885878/.
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exwhyzee
During a discussion about the tribulation and spiritual warfare, one sister in our hall raised her hand and suggested something that she had been doing for quite a while. She was burying literature in plastic detergent bottles in her back yard so that when the Trubulation hit and the literature was banned, she would be able to dig up the bottles and read old issues of the WT and Awake. I always wondered if they are still there and if anyone ever found them after she passed away.
A lot of people in our hall were poor janitors and I remember hearing the sisters say they were mixing powdered milk with regualr milk to make it last longer and adding oatmeal to hamburger meat so that it would go further. Another sister always wanted everyone to give her the aluminum trays from their TV dinners so she could make her own out of leftovers. This same sister had a whole case of Miss Clairol hair dye stored in the crawl space in her house. To her it would be utter trubulation to go around with grey roots. I always wondered how she figured during a "great tribulation" that she would have access to her supply if she were hauled away to a prison camp like many said was going to happen in the Tribulation.
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How do you suppose....
by exwhyzee inthe unique animals of austrailia ( kangaroo, walaby,koala bear, platapus etc) found their way to that isolated body of land once noah let them off the ark?
if they migrated there from mt.
ararat, it seems there would be fossils of them found between there and austrailia.
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Hey Louis, I hear what you're saying but how would angel DNA (if there was such a thing) be eliminated after a thousand years? Seems like it would be continously passed along to each child born
Aguest....If what you say is even possible, wouldn't there be Kangaroo fossils found in the middle east where Noah let them off the Ark and any where they traveled along the way before arriving in Austrailia? Also what is up with the whole (dear one and may you have peace) thing you add to your comments...am I missing something??
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How do you suppose....
by exwhyzee inthe unique animals of austrailia ( kangaroo, walaby,koala bear, platapus etc) found their way to that isolated body of land once noah let them off the ark?
if they migrated there from mt.
ararat, it seems there would be fossils of them found between there and austrailia.
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The unique animals of Austrailia ( Kangaroo, Walaby,Koala Bear, Platapus etc) found their way to that isolated body of land once Noah let them off the Ark? If they migrated there from Mt. Ararat, it seems there would be fossils of them found between there and Austrailia. If they were originally from there (Austrailia) I wonder how Noah was able to round up these animals to get them where the Ark was located ?