Doesn't sound like a good topic for "unlettered and ordinary men" to be dishing out advice on.
exwhyzee
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12/15 Study WT Questions From Readers - What to do with frozen embryos
by traveb indidn't see this posted already so i thought i would start a new topic.
three-page article about in vitro fertilization and what to do with frozen embryos.
the way i read it is everything to do with ivf is a conscience matter unless it involves a 3rd party then it's considered porneia.
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My husband confuses me?
by BackRow inmy husband confuses me.
he says that he is a jw, but very .
clearly enjoys the attention he gets from others on his birthday.
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exwhyzee
He's a double life'r....lots of Witnesses including those in positions of leadership do this to some degree or another. It's a form of coping while one is in a position where one no longer believes what his religion has taught him yet feeks heshould believe what his religion has taught him. It's a piteous situation to be in and is one of the main reasons sites like this exist. Be patient with him as he evolves into the fully developed individual he was meant to be had it not been for the stunting effects of this cult like group.
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A poignant comment on JWsurvey.org from a nonJW regarding Sparlock
by cedars ini woke up this morning to find the following comment had been left on jwsurvey.org on my article entitled "watchtower's new 'toy story' - what parents need to know".
it read as follows.... .
my grandson, who is 3, was telling me magic is bad several times a day.
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exwhyzee
Which begs the question: what DID you tell her about that, Cedars? Did you make a case for telling the child "magic is good?"
Good or Bad ??? What proof is there that "magic"even exists other than the slight of hand tricks we see performed on a stage ? Telling a child that a toy is bad and could connect him with Satan when there is no proof of such a thing or that there is a "devil" is primative and superstitious. The danger lies in ones beleiving that magic is real or from a powerful source.
It's a sad day when a mother can't speak up when she sees her daughter and grandchild about to enter into association with a group that is considered by many to be a borderline cult, without being viewed as meddeling and interfering. One day that grandchild or daughter may be lost to her forever for want of a blood transfusion, another harmless little notion they hold as truth. It seems like everyone is assuming that the woman has been meddeling in other areas yet nothing but her concerns for her grandchild, in this one particular area were mentioned. It seems to me, if she were a meddeler, she'd have spoken up by now rather than have asked advice from someone who may have indepth experience on the matter. I'd say she's weighing her options carefully before jumping in. I'd do the same thing if one of my Son's were about to embark on something that seemed a little "out there".
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Jehovah's Witnesses cease to exist before the year 2000
by rory-ks inseptember 1st, 2012, can be marked down in the theocratic calendar as the day the watchtower bible and tract society marched shamelessly into the 21st century.
on that day, jw.org, official website of jehovah's witnesses, went live, and with one strike the organisation put a match to its past.. .
seek out the society's online library, its searchable database of publications, and you will soon see that it has only made available literature published since the year 2000. inclusion of the generic work, insight on the scriptures, is of no consequence.
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exwhyzee
It angers and saddens me to think of the countless hours I spent as a child studying and trying to learn what was in those now obsolete publications having been told that I needed to know our beliefs backwards and forwards if I expected to survive the great tribulation. If I'd have known more about the Societies past (Beth Sarim, failed dates, UN, etc.) I'd have never worried so much or taken it all so seriously. Young ones or new ones now won't have the opportunity via the approved JW channels to know about the true history of the organization they're about to dedicate their lives to. Thanfully it will still reside on the internet and lives on through those of us who witnessed it personally.
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Those Wonderful Kingdom Songs
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exwhyzee
Remember "Loves excelling way" ?
There was a sister in our congregation when I was growing up who was a throwback from the 1950's and she used to sing the Kingdom songs in the stylings of Connie Francis who was dubbed (the girl with a tear in her voice). The Sister's name was Shirley but we called her Shirley Francis connie francis
We'd all be waiting in anticipation whenever Love's excelling way was to be sung. Complete with pleading facial expressions and swaying head movements she'd drag out the firrrrst and laaaast word of every verse....especially the word love LOOOOOVE. She had a nice voice ...even looked like Connie Francis but her verses dragged out much longer than the rest of the congregation and her whimpers could be heard above and beyond everyone elses voices. You almost expected her to take a bow at the end. One time a little toddler sitting in front of her was looking at her quisically...really studying her and then started imitating her voice by mimicking the sounds she was making which came out more like a dogs howl which of course made us all snicker.
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In praise of praise and compliments
by exwhyzee ini was thinking about how important praise and compliments are and how they can make all the difference to a person who may be feeling unsure, overwhelmed or sort of ordinary.
i received 3 out of the blue compliments this past weekend that for some reason seem to have energized me when i was feeling sort of like just another starfish on the beach.
one compliment gave me the reassurance that i am on the right track.
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exwhyzee
exwhyzee, I like your screen name, its quite clever. That's another genuine compliment !!! -Whathappened
See what I mean.....I used that name because I was too unclever to come up with anything better. It's true what you were saying about having to be sure and dole out the compliments to children carefully lest you make them feel pigeon holed into a certain role. Then again they have to learn that just because sister #1 is told she is pretty means that sister #2 isn't pretty.
B.O.C. "You and your sisters have two really amazing brains!"
What your Dad said to you probably went farther toward giving you the confidence and permission to eventually use your own head than hours of lecturing and debating over what differences he had with you being raised JW.
Fakesmile I agree, being alert to opportunities for catching someone doing well is so much more motivating than looking for wrongdoing. It seems like some folks are stingy with praise because they think they need to keep others in their place....keep them from thinking too highly of themselves. (god forbid) If they tell you you are doing well they are afraid you'll slack off.
I'm still on a little bit of a high from what was said to me a few days ago and it has reminded me to be on the watch to do the same for those around me.
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In praise of praise and compliments
by exwhyzee ini was thinking about how important praise and compliments are and how they can make all the difference to a person who may be feeling unsure, overwhelmed or sort of ordinary.
i received 3 out of the blue compliments this past weekend that for some reason seem to have energized me when i was feeling sort of like just another starfish on the beach.
one compliment gave me the reassurance that i am on the right track.
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exwhyzee
I was thinking about how important praise and compliments are and how they can make all the difference to a person who may be feeling unsure, overwhelmed or sort of ordinary. I received 3 out of the blue compliments this past weekend that for some reason seem to have energized me when I was feeling sort of like just another starfish on the beach. One compliment gave me the reassurance that I am on the right track. Another gave me the shot in the arm I needed to keep going with a difficult project. The third one made me very late and makes my heart thump in my chest when I think about it 3 days later. Everyone gets compliments that are often just niceties that we say to one another but when someone compliments or praises you and is very specific, it really can get to you and make all your efforts feel worthwhile.
What’s the nicest compliment you’ve received and how did it make you feel? Maybe you complimented someone and could see by their reaction that you had said just the right thing. Tell us about it.
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Best EZ 1 Liners to Say to Witnesses?
by LV101 inany suggestions?
attending an invite (strange we're invited but hoping to make it worth my while) but i don't want to suffer big consequences as i've already said enough wrong stuff.
i'm stuck reading hassan's ccmc book (about half way --- just don't have time and not into it).
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exwhyzee
I guess I'm a little dense but I'm not clear what it is your're asking.
If you are attanding a JW gathering and don't want any kind of confrontation but are pressed for reasons or answers, you can make up your mind to be as vague and elusive as you can without being rude. Be prepared to give the blankest looks you can muster and be comfortable with saying things like "Hmmm...I'm not sure.....or......It's .Hard to say for sure isn't it ?
When pressed, I've said something to this effect.
"Well....we both know this is a sensitive subject and I prefer to keep my thoughts on the matter to myself. I did a little homework and I discovered some things that I wasn't previously aware of before being baptized. The information is out there for anyone to see but I don't want to be accused of trying to lead anyone astray because that isn't the case at all.
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Service meeting topic: Masturbation
by perfect1 inone of my strangest memories of going to the kh was when a young- maybe 18-20, pimply young man got up to talk about jhvhs view of masturbation during a service meeting.. of course, it was impossible to think about him not masturbating.
i was just hitting puberty and found the whole thing very uncomfortable- i think my dad was even critiquing him (what is that called when elder gives the feedback).
looking back now i can see that to publicly condemn masturbation, especially when a young man is delivering this admonition, is- well- hilarious.
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exwhyzee
As amusing as this thread is for a non jw I can't even begin to comprehend sitting in a 'church' type setting and having this discussed with all ages and mixed company! Tell a regular (non jw) person this goes on in a kh and they are appalled. So much so it is enough to keep some people from ever stepping foot in a kh they are so disgusted by this practice in dubland.
I was at a Watchtower study once where a few of the paragraphs were covering the topic of circumcision (one of the WT's favorite subjects) and a little girl raised her hand and told us the difference, in detail between circumcision of the heart and actual circumcision. It was just weird. I was so glad there were no new bible studies there or visiting non JW family members there. I couldn't beleive the parents let her raise her hand on that paragraph and or the conductor didn't have sense enough to let someone else comment.
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Service meeting topic: Masturbation
by perfect1 inone of my strangest memories of going to the kh was when a young- maybe 18-20, pimply young man got up to talk about jhvhs view of masturbation during a service meeting.. of course, it was impossible to think about him not masturbating.
i was just hitting puberty and found the whole thing very uncomfortable- i think my dad was even critiquing him (what is that called when elder gives the feedback).
looking back now i can see that to publicly condemn masturbation, especially when a young man is delivering this admonition, is- well- hilarious.
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exwhyzee
The Congregation went silent when the young brother was told he needed to work on "Repetiton for Emphasis" and "Audience Contact"