i don't mean the 'unruly men who cook up wicked reasoning and season their brew with poisonous lies that deceive minds' definition.... i mean - who are they actually referring to when they are doing these awful talks at the conventions about the mentally diseased apostates etc.. specifically - is an 'apostate' someone who was actually baptised (baptized for you american's ) ?
or can someone who was simply raised in "the truth" but left and was never baptised be classified as this lying, deceiving, mentally diseased apostate also?
or am i considered to be an apostate - even though i wasn't raised in the cult, never went to a meeting etc.
If you leave your Church or religion because you see hypocracy, wrongdoing or doctrinal errors, you are considered to be "honest hearted and a "seeker of truth" .
If you leave the Watchtower Society for the very same reasons, you are an Apostate and are the worst kind of unbeliever.
i know the jw's are wrong but if they were right, this is my question...... when the big a comes, there has to be the best person who dies.
the one who lost out on life by a fraction.
the very best one who still did not make it.
Adolph Hitler killed 6million Jews.....eternal destruction.
A JW who doesn't go out in Service enough during the last days....eternal destruction.
ok so from the help of various people, i now have thought of various ways to increase cognitive dissonance without showing "apostate reasoning"... usually it works by highlighting other beliefs (sorry people if someone here is of any of the faiths i will mention... i do not mean to insult, just to save my family and friends from the wt...) and portraying them as "bad" when we have had exactly the same beliefs at one point!!
(i will try the nathan-david approach... you are the man!!!).
vaccinations: "i find it soooo stupid that some religions reject vaccinations!!
You could say " Don't you hate how everytime something good happens, Fundamentalist Christians claim it's due to the Lord having blessed them, even when there's no way to prove it is so? "
JW's roll their eyes and snicker to themselves when people from other religions talk about how much God has blessed them or their efforts to serve him. After all, everybody knows they are the only one's God blesses...even though there is no proof of this.
i have just been hired as the new clinical director for a large company.
i think the following email from them is hilarious.
they want me to basically define my duties by writing my own job description.
I think posting the letter was recovering's way of letting us know he's 'doing very well thank you.'
Yea...the email wasn't that hard to figure out, especially for a Dr. but it was a way to let everyone know what his/her salary will be without coming across as bragging. Can't blame him though....sounds like he/she is "recovering" well.
i feel as though i'm losing it.. firstly, my mom isn't baptized but has been around witnesses for a long time.
when i was in, she would have problems with the religion.
we were always at ends with eachother.
I'd say your Mom is feeling guilty for your having left the truth because when you were trying, she wasn't very supportive . Maybe your DF'd friend was teetering between going back or leaving for good and was bouncing things off of you.
in recent weeks the jw’s here in the uk have been setting up their new portable watchtower literature displays in my local town square on a saturday morning.
as they hadn’t knocked on my door for at least five years, and consequently feeling somewhat neglected, i thought that i would pay them a visit instead.. .
the first thing i needed to do was arrange my literature.
Well done. You lived out a fantasy of mine. I have printed copies of these type of articles on the bookshelf in our entry hall at the ready.
I'd also like to print a stack of these and place them on all the windshields of the cars at the KH parking lot on meeting night or mail them anonymously to every JW I know.
i have just been hired as the new clinical director for a large company.
i think the following email from them is hilarious.
they want me to basically define my duties by writing my own job description.
"Write your own job description so I can work off it" = I was told to write it but that's too much work. it's easier if you do it since I don't know all that much about it . I'll just tweak it a little and make it look like I know what I'm doing.
Fill out the credit applicaton = You will have a card to use for work related expenses.
autobiography.
forever began at the day of my birth, but, it turns out that it was a lie,.
i am who i am when nobody's watching, then nothing is there to deny.. .
autobiography.
forever began at the day of my birth, but, it turns out that it was a lie,.
i am who i am when nobody's watching, then nothing is there to deny.. .
You can't sell a poem about sunshine, only one about grey skies and rain,
cause' ones about happiness get tedious, to folks who think poems should have pain.
Though I've had my share of good times, things really weren't bad so it seems,
but a poem about that, would fall rather flat next to one that has nightmares and screams.
If I write a poem about high hopes and things that mostly went great,
to you I could tell it, but I never could sell it, most people just wouldn't relate.
I've been mislead, had a childhood of dread over things that never came true,
and spent my life waiting, never really relating, to people even some that I knew.
So that's why I'll write of and tell you the plight of, someone who's whole life was spent,
listening to others, called them sisters and brothers, but doesn't know where they all went.
No you can't sell a poem about sunshine, but there's one thing for sure we do share.
If we wrote down our stories, told the pain and the glories, we'd all surely be millionaires.
*first* - a clarification that needs to be made.
this is not about all women.
i am not against cosmetic surgery.
I get what your saying.....they aren't exactly putting their "money where their mouth is" in terms of the nearness of Armegeddon are they? But you can't blame them for wanting to improve their day to day life, especially when on some level they know based on past failures, the New System probably won't come in their lifetime, no matter what they might say outloud.
The thing is, there is risk of ones life involved in these procedures. We know a JW woman who had breast augmentation and ran into a snag over the blood issue. She didn't stop bleeding for several days after the surgery and her doctor was pressing her to take a transfusion. Fortunately the bleeding stopped but can you imagine losing your life over something like this or having to enlist the help of the Blood Liaison Committee about a surgery that maybe you didn't particularly want anyone to know about ?
I think they figure that in the New System, Jehovah will remove their implants the same way he'll remove the hip implants, heart valves and dental work that others have had done. I always wondered what people with Dentures will do while their teeth are growing back ? After surviving an event like Armegeddon and the Tribulation, I suppose they figure this would be the least of their worries.
