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  Awful WTBTS " infomercial " funeral service talk

  by RULES & REGULATIONS in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  w77 6/1 pp.

  346-347 mourning and funeralsfor whom?

  a funeral or memorial service?

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  respectful_observer

  Oh, and one other experience.

  I went to a large memorial service for a young brother who'd died after a short illness. It was attended by hundreds of people, many of which were his co-workers. When it ended, a J-dub sitting in front of me turned to one of the "worldly" co-workers and said "Wasn't that a wonderful service?" The man replied: "Actually this was the worst one I've ever heard. They barely said a word about him. All they did was try to sell his religion! I worked with him for almost 10 years, and he never tried to push his religion on anyone this much. I actually hope he is 'asleep' or whatever. Because if he had to watch this from heaven, he'd be embarrassed!"

  The J-dub was left speechless. I asked him afterward what he thought of the response. He replied, "Oh, I didn't really listen. He obviously just doesn't like Witnesses."
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  Awful WTBTS " infomercial " funeral service talk

  by RULES & REGULATIONS in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  w77 6/1 pp.

  346-347 mourning and funeralsfor whom?

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  I had an uber dub pioneer aunt comment to me about a wordly funeral she attended of a bible student. "you know (with a look of disgust on her face) they must of only spent 5 or 10 minutes talking about the person and the rest of the time was taken up with the church". Just hit me like a bus that comment. WOMEN OPEN YOUR EYES!!!!!! Of course I never said anything.

  Ha! I had the same experience. We all went to a the funeral of a non-JW relative. When we got back in the car, the first thing uttered by my father was:

  "That was disgusting. The priest only spoke about him for 10 minutes. Obviously he didn't know him that well, otherwise he would have said more about him. The rest of it was just like another Mass."

  "Dad, I was thinking the exact opposite. He spoke about him for much longer than the JW memorial talk outline allows for. You get, what, maybe 5 minutes about the person? The rest is just the standard outline about the Ransom and resurrection."

  "Well that's different. There's a reason we do it that way. This priest had no excuse."
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  Finally, Anointedjw Names Some Names

  by metatron in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  https://www.anointedjw.org/apostasy_in_fenway.html.

  not names of the anointed jws but names of elders and a location.. .

  are we getting hints that this thing has legs?.

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  Anyone from Boston know any of these guys on this guy's JC?

  Les Fashank, Anthony Aguirre, Peter Husbands and Lance McBrayer

  Are they as arrogant as this guy makes them sound? Although Aguirre came across as the most reasonable (or inexperienced).
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  AGM 2014 Songs

  by wifibandit in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  all thanks must go to my anonymous source.. .

  full set: http://imgur.com/a/bwl52.

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  Oh, and why do they repeat the line "The Kingdom has been brought to birth...." Usually if they lyrics are identical for both verses they just print it as one line (as they do with the last two lines).
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  AGM 2014 Songs

  by wifibandit in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  all thanks must go to my anonymous source.. .

  full set: http://imgur.com/a/bwl52.

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  I can't help myself, but whenever I read the lyrics "Let it come, Let it come!" all I can think of is "Let it go! Let it go! from Frozen.

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  New songs coming

  by kneehighmiah in

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  2. friends

  heard from an inside source that there are 3 new songs coming to the songbook.

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  Oh, and I can't wait to hear the first JW say something to the effect of:

  "This is so exciting! The Faithful Slave has given us these wonderful special new songs. It's amazing how quickly the Chariot is moving. It's getting hard to keep up!"

  (Ignoring, or not recognizing the fact that a new song has nothing to do with the fulfillment of Bible prophecy.)
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  New songs coming

  by kneehighmiah in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  heard from an inside source that there are 3 new songs coming to the songbook.

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  respectful_observer

  Two questions:

  1. What's so special about those 3 songs, that they thought it was necessary to update/republish a songbook that was newly issued a few short years ago?

  2. Was that the only "big news" that came out of the special Bethel meeting that was held ahead of the Annual Meeting this weekend?

  I wonder if they've all be directed to learn the new songs this week and those will be the ones sung at the Annual Meeting this weekend. Just a guess.
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  Vermont Sisters Sue Jehovah's Witnesses For Child Sex Abuse

  by Watchtower-Free in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  http://digital.vpr.net/post/vermont-sisters-sue-jehovahs-witnesses-child-sex-abuse.

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  Interesting. Thanks for posting. Does anyone know if Miranda Lewis or her mother Marina Mauvoleon-Folsom are disfellowshipped or DA'd? I can't imagine an active member of the congregation filing suit against the congregation and remaining in "good standing."

  Does anyone on this board have local connections with anyone in Bellows Falls, VT? I'd been there a long time ago once or twice, but that was ages ago.
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  Going on the OFFENSIVE

  by Coded Logic in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  the wtbts has an easy time painting x-witnesses as apostates because the direction of information is entirely one way.

  and jws rarely get an opportunity to consider both sides of the equation for themselves.

  i think that websites like this one are a great tool for those who are already questioning their beliefs or are already entirely out.

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  Start plastering this on everything ...

  

  Didn't the recent letters to all U.S. congregations regarding JW.ORG signage at the local KH include the specifics of fonts and even the specific Pantone color to use? If one desired, one could make a very similar sign with:

  JW

  FACTS

  .ORG

  Plus, if this board is to be believed, the WTS lost its request to trademark "JW.ORG", so no pesky lawyers would bother you. A vehicle parked near the Assembly Hall would be noticed by almost every single JW driving by. At first they would squeal with delight and try to take a picture with their phone to post on FB or Instagram to show how well the new website's being advertised. It would take most people more than few seconds to realize the difference and understand the implication.
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  Should the constitution be amended to make being and adherent of Islam a crime?

  by confusedandalone in

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  2. current

  since isis is killing people in the middle east and apparently they are invaded the rest of the earth with their hateful beliefs should we as americans take the steps necessary to amend the constitution to say something along the lines of .

  congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion except in regards to islam, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof except in regards to islam; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble except in regards to islam, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.. .

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  respectful_observer

  Belief in a particular religion is basically thought. Trying to legislate thought is an impossible task. Any external manifestation of that thought-- excercise, speech, assembly-- is the only thing which could even be legislated or controled by an outside party.

  I would argue that any exercise, speech, or assembly associated with any religion or group that is physically harmful to another person is already illegal. No matter how hateful a belief is, it cannot bring physical harm to another person. Physical harm to others may be caused by someone with hateful beliefs, but it is the physical action (not the belief) that causes the harm. Physical actions that harm others are already illegal in this country-- no constitutional amendment needed.