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Cases of fornication when only one of the involved individuals will confess

by Judge Rochefort in

what happens in cases of fornication between two jehovah's wintesses if one of them confesses but the other denies the facts?would there be a judicial committee to the one who confesses while the other individual would be left as if nothing had happened?i would love to know specially the opinions of elders or ex-elders.thank you!

respectful_observer

I've got friend who made the sad mistake of having a private make-out session with this woman who was infatuated with him.

When she found out he was interested in someone else months later, she ran to her elders and "confessed" to sleeping with him. Even claimed she took a pregnancy and STD test afterward.

He got blindsided one day after the meeting with the accusation. He confessed to the make-out session, but insisted it went no further. He asked that she provide proof (e.g., his "identifiable features"). The elders refused and said it didn't matter. "After all, why would she come forward and admit judicial action for something she never did??" Hmmm....maybe because she was CRAZY.

She was privately reproved by her elders, he was publicly reproved for "loose conduct" by his. He's barely been to meetings since.

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New donation arrangement in action locally

by respectful_observer in

recently they announced at my hall that a large donation had been made to the local congregation-- nearly $100,000.

they then proposed a resolution that we continue our new(ish) practice of only keeping enough money on hand locally for monthly expenses, and send the entire amount of this large donation to the watchtower society.

aside from the fact that our congregation has already sent well over a half-million dollars to the wt in the last 12 months, i don't understand the motive of the person who made the donation.

respectful_observer

Tax shelter.
Although you could also use the annuity arrangement and get a better long term tax plan.

Agreed, but you would get the same tax benefits whether the check is written to the local congregation or the WTS. All I can think, is maybe it's a periodic distribution from a trust where the sole named beneficiary is the local congregation and the trustee has no choice but to write the check out to the local congregation.

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New donation arrangement in action locally

by respectful_observer in

recently they announced at my hall that a large donation had been made to the local congregation-- nearly $100,000.

they then proposed a resolution that we continue our new(ish) practice of only keeping enough money on hand locally for monthly expenses, and send the entire amount of this large donation to the watchtower society.

aside from the fact that our congregation has already sent well over a half-million dollars to the wt in the last 12 months, i don't understand the motive of the person who made the donation.

respectful_observer

Recently they announced at my hall that a large donation had been made to the local congregation-- nearly $100,000. They then proposed a resolution that we continue our new(ish) practice of only keeping enough money on hand locally for monthly expenses, and send the entire amount of this large donation to the Watchtower Society.

Aside from the fact that our congregation has already sent well over a half-million dollars to the WT in the last 12 months, I don't understand the motive of the person who made the donation. Didn't they know it would just get sent along to the WT and disappear forever? Why bother giving it to the local congregation at all? Why not just pop a check in the mail to the branch and call it a day?

What's funny is that our KH is in desperate need of renovation (hence the previously large savings account). It's a historic building on prime piece of land in a wealthy community. We've been on the RBC/LDC "waiting list" for years now. It will be interesting to see the local reaction when, instead of renovating, the branch decides to sell the hall for a huge wad of cash and tells the congregation to move to the cheaper town next door and build a cheap new "standard" hall there. At that point the WT will have been able to suck several million dollars out of just one congregation.

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JW Cart's Family Photos. My Pusher stole my JWCart1975 I.D. but here I am!

by JWCart in

some of us ride, some of us roll.. .

family reunion of jw carts gathering together for missionary work, some people waste their time in liberia trying to help ebola victims, jehovah's organization spends all their time focused on meaningful endeavors by bringing them salvation.

pusher said "why bother helping when people are going to die anyway, focus on the big picture (joining jehovah's organization is the only way to eliminate homelessness, hunger and global issues", doctors waste their time in west africa when they could be pushing carts with literature and books, that's real healing", i still don't understand why we can't help the poor and sick but than again, i am just a jw cart!.

respectful_observer

Does anyone else find this photo ironic?

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Daily Mail: Married JW woman, 36, had sex with 15-year-old boy breaks down in tears as she is told she faces jail. Elders there for support

by AndersonsInfo in

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2976095/married-woman-36-sex-15-year-old-schoolboy-breaks-tears-told-faces-jail.html.

married woman, 36, who had sex with 15-year-old schoolboy breaks down in tears as she is told she faces jail .

married mother of two broke down in tears at merthyr tydfil crown court.

respectful_observer

A very similar thing happened in California a few years ago (Santa Barbara, I think). I heard the sister only got reproved and stayed in the hall while the lives of all the others involved (friends, family members) fell apart.

Edit: http://www.edhat.com/site/tidbit.cfm?nid=80905&showcomments=T

Source: City of Goleta Police Department

Detectives have arrested a 41-year old woman from Goleta for having unlawful sex with a teenage boy in 2008.

On Monday, November 11, 2011, a man from Goleta came to the Sheriff's Headquarters to report that his, now adult, son had recently told him about a sexual relationship he had with a woman in her 30's when he was 17-years old.

The following investigation revealed that Lisa Ann Rowell (DOB 8/5/70) and the teenager were engaged in a sexual relationship in the spring of 2008.

Detectives arrested Rowell on Tuesday morning, February 7, 2012 and booked her into the Santa Barbara County Jail for unlawful sexual intercourse with a minor (261.5 PC; 288a(b)(1) PC) on $50,000 bail.

Detectives continue to investigate the case. They encourage anyone who may have information regarding this or any other crime involving Lisa Rowell to contact them at (805) 681-4150 or the Sheriff's Anonymous Tip Line at (805) 681-4171.

Due to the victim's age at the time of the crime, there will be no more details released.

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March JW Broadcast: Once again disparaging Higher Education - this time in the Music Video.

by cappytan in

i will have the music video separated shortly.

will post the link once it's done..

respectful_observer

That guy must not be very good at his job if he can't keep up with the workload. Maybe he should've invested in a little extra education.

Once again the WTS implies that white collar jobs (read: jobs requiring a 4-year degree) will cause you to miss meetings. Every time a WTS publication talks about the danger of your secular work interfering with spiritual activities, the accompanying illustration is always of a white collar worker. They never show the self-employed roofer who has to skip the Sunday meeting to get that roof on in time, or the plumber who spends every other Saturday doing side jobs to collect a little extra cash on the side.

They seem to forget that the average white collar worker has no problem taking a paid day off to attend the Friday session of the convention, or never have to worry about working on the weekend instead of service, the meeting, or an assembly. Or that, since most white collar jobs are salaried, there's no incentive to work overtime for extra pay on a meeting night.

I would challenge anyone to find even one illustration or photograph in WT literature that shows someone putting their blue collar job ahead of spiritual activities.

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JW literature cart spot pinched by another church group!

by stuckinarut2 in

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sooooo funny!.

the spot that is used by the local cong in our town for the literature cart has been taken over by another church group!.

the witnesses arrived to set up, and another group was in the exact same spot, with a table, and brochures and a sign..... it will be a great thing as it dilutes the effectiveness of the witness activity, by making it look confusing to the local town people!.....

respectful_observer

Sooooo funny!
The spot that is used by the local cong in our town for the literature cart has been taken over by another church group!
The witnesses arrived to set up, and another group was in the exact same spot, with a table, and brochures and a sign....
It will be a great thing as it dilutes the effectiveness of the witness activity, by making it look confusing to the local town people!...

They'll spin it at their next Circuit Assembly that the other church realized how successful the JW-cart technique is, so decided to copy it...however their attempt did not have Jehovah's blessing, so it was not as successful.

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Child Abuse must be getting out of hand if they're addressing it...

by thedepressedsoul in

i'm referring to the video that was uploaded where they finally mentioned the child abuse issue.

we all kinda guessed that if they ever addressed it they'd blame it on the media and apostates.

well, looks like we were spot on.

respectful_observer

I'm referring to the video that was uploaded where they finally mentioned the child abuse issue.

Sorry, is there a link? Is it a standalone video, or just a segment of a longer one?

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Where did this picture of GB singing come from?

by Esse quam videri in

sorry.

i see it is on jw survey and from one of their earth shaking, mind bending, nausea producing jw.org broadcasts.. .

respectful_observer

Haha...looks like the guy on the left end of the middle row (behind Morris) isn't even singing.

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Where did this picture of GB singing come from?

by Esse quam videri in

sorry.

i see it is on jw survey and from one of their earth shaking, mind bending, nausea producing jw.org broadcasts.. .

respectful_observer

By placing the Governing Body as the entire front row of the "choir", an outside observer might infer that these men were somehow more important/privileged, in a different class than the others in the group.

It's a good thing there's no "clergy class" within Jehovah's Witnesses. And by "clergy" I mean people who's full time employment is to set the doctrine of, and direct the teachings of a church.

respectful_observer

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