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  Watchtower Tax Return

  by Tahoe in

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  photo credit: dallas canadathis is from only one of the corporations and before the recent kh sell offs.

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  respectful_observer

  If you search by town (i.e. Wallkill, NY), you'll see results for several WT-related entities:

  • JW Congregation Support Inc.
  • Kingdom Support Services Inc.
  • Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society of Pennsylvania
  • Watchtower Bible and Tract Society of New York Inc.
  • Christian Congregation of Jehovah's Witnesses

  Although none are surprises or have additional financial info available (aside from WBTS of NY), a "fun fact" nonetheless.

  I did a quick search of Warwick, NY and Patterson, NY too, but none of the results jumped out at me as WT-related.
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  Time matters

  by I Faded Twice in

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  a few years back i was in a meeting between fades and it was the co visit.

  he said something i thought was crazy and a lot of jws buy into this mentality.

  i don't remember the talk but he asked this question.. what if this isn't the truth?

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  respectful_observer

  An Elder told me that even if it wasn't the truth, he couldn't think of a better way of life !!!

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  You should tell him the Apostle Paul disagrees with you.

  1 Cor 15:19

  According to Br. Paul, “...we are to be pitied more than anyone” if it’s all just a lie.

  
  
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  How would the Borg view IVF?

  by purrpurr in

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  specifically if an unwed woman decided she wanted a kid without the hassle of dating/relationship /trying to get pregnant etc and just got a sperm doner with ivf?

  surely it's not fornication?

  the whole process is far removed from sex.

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  respectful_observer

  I find it comical that surrogacy and sperm donors are forbidden by the WT.

  Why?

  I dunno...maybe you should ask Joseph and Mary about that one. Big J seemed to be okay with Mary carrying and giving birth to a baby when Joseph wasn’t the biological father.
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  How would the Borg view IVF?

  by purrpurr in

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  specifically if an unwed woman decided she wanted a kid without the hassle of dating/relationship /trying to get pregnant etc and just got a sperm doner with ivf?

  surely it's not fornication?

  the whole process is far removed from sex.

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  respectful_observer

  Lots of JW couples have used IVF. It’s no issue if you use your own sperm and eggs.

  The WT has an issue if you use donor eggs or sperm, then they make a logic jump to “fornication”. Now of course if a married JW couple used either a donor egg or sperm and kept quiet about it, hard to prove, and they’d probably never be challenged on it.

  In your scenario, a single JW sister would certainly have action taken. Either disfellowshipping, or maybe some public reproof and a marking talk if she claims ignorance or something.
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  Banners for London Protest

  by Farmer Jim1 in

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  hi folks, i’m attending the london protest at the excel convention in august and am making some banners.

  i’m aiming for short but memorable sentences that will stick in jws minds and also make them laugh a little at their own organisation.. my best so far is ‘this is not a protest, it’s an overlapping protest’.

  has anyone got any ideas for more?.

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  respectful_observer

  Actually, scratch my suggestion above.

  All you need on your signs are these:

  Cheese danish or Apple? (If you picked cheese, you’re an apostate but just don’t know it yet)

  ...or this one...

  If you like semi-frozen orange juice you’re an apostate (you just don’t know it yet)

  Btw, I’m actually serious about these signs. Why not hook them with an inside joke? Just put “jwfacts.com” or “jehovahs-witness.com” at the bottom.
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  Banners for London Protest

  by Farmer Jim1 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  hi folks, i’m attending the london protest at the excel convention in august and am making some banners.

  i’m aiming for short but memorable sentences that will stick in jws minds and also make them laugh a little at their own organisation.. my best so far is ‘this is not a protest, it’s an overlapping protest’.

  has anyone got any ideas for more?.

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  respectful_observer

  ^^^^^

  Google your hotel for reviews?: Yes

  Google your restaurant for reviews?: Yes

  Google your car for reviews?: Yes

  Google your religion?: NO!!!!
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  Do you know what Atalaya means? - Guess who's investing the big bucks!

  by oppostate in

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  2. scandals

  do you know what atalaya means?

  guess who's investing the big bucks!.

  http://www.atalayacap.com/about.

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  respectful_observer

  No WT connection.

  It’s a NYC-based private equity firm managing about $2.6 billion. None of its books and records are stored at any WT-related addresses. Firm ownership appears to be mainly associated with various Neuberger Berman legal entities.

  In the remotest chance there’s a connection, here’s a list of their key personnel:

  Ivan Zinn

  Raymond Chan

  Robert Flowers

  Adam Nadborny

  David Aidi

  Joshua Ufberg

  Drew Phillips

  Gerald Cammarata

  (More details can be found if you search for the firm’s name using FINRA’s Brokercheck tool and look at Atalaya’s Form ADV)
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  Female JW parking "attendants"

  by neat blue dog in

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  i was shocked recently to see on social media a couple pictures of jw sisters at a convention working as parking "attendants".

  i put that title in quotation marks because they still don't get the official attendant badge like the male parking attendants do, only the reflective vest.

  has anybody else heard of this .

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  Interesting. I was recently chatting with a brother who's the head of the Attendant Dept for his RC this year and he's only been about to recruit about 30% of the brothers needed; apparently many were telling him they were either unavailable or had already committed to working in Parking. So he called the Parking Dept Overseer and it turns out HE is way understaffed, with many telling him they'd already committed to working as Attendants!

  At this point the Attendants Overseer is very discouraged and doesn't understand why the younger brothers (18 - 45) just refuse to step up and help. He and the Parking Overseer even escalated to the Convention Overseer and were told that the other conventions being held at the same venue on other weekends are facing the same issue.

  All of this is rather amusing to me, as I know for a fact that in certain countries sisters are used as Attendants (yes, with badges), however it's just not allowed here (...yet...until NooLite of course).
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  Banners for London Protest

  by Farmer Jim1 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  hi folks, i’m attending the london protest at the excel convention in august and am making some banners.

  i’m aiming for short but memorable sentences that will stick in jws minds and also make them laugh a little at their own organisation.. my best so far is ‘this is not a protest, it’s an overlapping protest’.

  has anyone got any ideas for more?.

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  respectful_observer

  People will only be stealing quick glances, so it would need to be very short and easy to remember to be effective.

  “jwfacts.com”

  “jehovahs-witness.com”

  “Why are you afraid to Google ‘Jehovah’s Witnesses’?
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  Behind the Scenes of Newsweek's "Bible Thumpers" Cover

  by Tahoe in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  http://www.newsweek.com/behind-scenes-newsweeks-international-june-1-cover-art-960456.

  pretty neat story..

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  respectful_observer

  Wow...who knew. Apparently not everything is just Photoshop these days. Cool.