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  4 New BOEs as of Tuesday 4/28

  by Atlantis in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  we thank our informant for these documents and hope he/she will remain under the radar safely!.

  click the green download button... 2015 april 17, boe (re: meeting medical needs in the foreign-language field).

  .. http://wwwb.fileflyer.com/view/gukk6aq.

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  The terminology here is for the UK version. In the U.S, I don't believe Advanced Directives (yes, that's what they're called here) ever expire. If I were a betting man, I'd bet this is specific for the UK branch territory. Can any elder in the U.S. confirm whether this applies here, too?

  I was wondering the same thing. But typically privacy laws are stronger in the UK and Europe, so I'd be surprised if there was an instance where U.S. privacy laws prevented the WTS from doing something, but UK/EU law permitted it.
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  Mays JW TV Broadcast/Your feedback is appreciated

  by ToesUp in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i have a pretty good intuition but i have to admit i am going back and forth on the jw tv may broadcast.

  i keep asking myself are they really in financial trouble (wishful thinking) or are they just grabbing for more money?.

  i always appreciate reading everyone's thoughts and ideas on here.. let me know what you think.

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  All for show6 minutes agoSome still In friends, faithful and sadly asleep, said they are so discouragedby the broadcasts.

  Do you mean the broadcasts in general, or this specific one? If it's this specific month, I'd be curious to know what was said by those who are "asleep".
  

  I did notice that over on jwtalk dot net, the monthly "dancing in the Kool Aid fountain" that typically occurs when the monthly broadcast is released is strangely absent this month. Most of the posts on the thread relate to technical questions on how to download, etc. There is one depressing post about how someone will buy less fresh food, cancel cable TV, and potentially cash out life insurance policies to increase their donations.
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  May tv.jw.org program

  by zophar in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  the may broadcast on tv.jw.org.

  we need money!.

  http://tv.jw.org/#video/vodstudio/pub-jwb_201505_1_video.

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  So I finally got my significant other ("SO") to watch the relevant parts of this JW broadcast. My SO typically refuses because, "It will make me think we're in a crazy cult."

  Well my SO watched it and flipped out at many of the misleading statements, half-truths, etc. that have already been noted by many of you on this thread (without prompting from me). The response at the end: "I wish I never saw that. You don't understand. Watching that makes me not want to be a Jehovah's Witness."

  Needless to say, I don't think I'll be getting any pressure to swipe our debit card at the next CA or RC...
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  They're Making it Impossible to Fade

  by DarioKehl in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  for those of you who have already faded due to family still being in, have you noticed how the noose is tightening?.

  if it's not memorial, it's special day assembly.

  if it's not that, it's convention or the special talk.

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  I haven't carried a blood card in 5-10 years, nor has my spouse. My spouse has said (more than once) that the logic behind the blood policy is weak at best, and easily argued against...but would still refuse blood when it came down to it. A little confusing, but I haven't ever pushed on the issue.

  If this scheme of collecting copies of everyone's blood cards does play out, I'll be curious to see how it plays out in my family.
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  JWs are being told Watchtower is financially strapped because they forgave Kingdom Hall mortgages!

  by PokerPlayerPhil in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  here's why the governing body did that little line on jw broadcasting, i have a source still inside new york and being as sneaky as ever, the watchtower is claiming they need the cash because they forgave the kingdom hall mortgages!

  not all the kingdom halls are hitting the targeted monthly donation-revenue range, they are still asking other kingdom halls to pony up cash for kingdom halls that can't afford the "recommended donation rate".

  pure evil, that's the jehovah"s witness watchtower theocratic war in action!

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  tim3l0rdan hour agoI saw the same post as you. Someone posted a copy of it on Reddit. It read like it was full of sarcasm to me. I really hope it was someone being sarcastic or an exjw trolling.

  
  

  I read the original post on jwtalk dot net. Sadly, the original poster was completely serious; no sarcasm. (Hopefully they still have money for Kool Aid.)
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  Ties at the Kingdom Hall

  by CloseTheDoor in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  couple of weeks ago an elder took a young man aside and crawled all over him after the tms for wearing a "skinny" tie.

  it was one of those 2 inch wide ties.

  nothing bright or scandalous about.

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  On theWayOut, "As an elder, I wore animal ties."
  

  Haha...can't imagine many elders are wearing Hermes animal print ties!!!
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  They're Making it Impossible to Fade

  by DarioKehl in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  for those of you who have already faded due to family still being in, have you noticed how the noose is tightening?.

  if it's not memorial, it's special day assembly.

  if it's not that, it's convention or the special talk.

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  ecan6an hour agoDid you just say that the Elders want to keep a copy of your medical directives? That is, there is the one that you are expected to keep in your wallet and now they want a copy that is to be kept else where??

  
  

  Someone posted a group of new BOE letters a week or so ago:

  
  

  http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/242410001/4-new-boes-tuesday-4-28

  
  

  several of which are on the HLC/blood issue. One specific checklist for service group overseers directs them to ensure they have a current copy of each person's signed Advanced Medical Directive. Two excerpts from the checklist:

  
  

  You should confirm with each member of your group that they have a signed, witnessed and dated AD document, less than 5 years old. It is helpful to review the completeness and legibility of the document to ensure no mistakes have been made.

  For each member of your group, check that copies have been lodged with the witnesses of the AD document, the emergency contact, the publisher’s GP, and the congregation secretary.
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  4 New BOEs as of Tuesday 4/28

  by Atlantis in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  we thank our informant for these documents and hope he/she will remain under the radar safely!.

  click the green download button... 2015 april 17, boe (re: meeting medical needs in the foreign-language field).

  .. http://wwwb.fileflyer.com/view/gukk6aq.

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  If they ask you for a copy, ask if they comply with all the medical records privacy laws. In the States we have HIPAA (which technically only applies to health care providers), but you can ask if they VOLUNTARILY comply with it. Then show them the privacy requirements:

  http://postimg.org/image/zcj18tull/

  [url=http://postimg.org/image/zcj18tull/][img=http://s28.postimg.org/zcj18tull/hipaa_simplification_201303.jpg][/url]....booo....can't seem to post an image of the actual doc here.

  Tell them you will provide a copy when they can show that their recordkeeping policies and procedures satisfy these requirements.
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  £150,000,000 Jehovahs Witnesses HQ approved

  by defender of truth in

  1. social
  2. current

  the jehovahs witnesses have gained planning to build a vast uk headquarters complex in chelmsford.the international bible students association, which manages the christian groups literature, gained planning to redevelop a derelict farm near galleywood with a 1.2m sq ft scheme.the 150m complex will provide homes for 1,200 people spread across 16 five-storey blocks, a large printing plant, offices, auditorium, health and fitness centre, water treatment plant and on-site parking for 1,040 vehicles.. the ibsa is now set to begin groundwork at the 82-acre temple farm site and start construction by 2016.. .

  www.constructionenquirer.com/2015/04/29/150m-jehovahs-witnesses-hq-approved-for-chelmsford/.

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  £150m?????????? Whose valuation is this, the IBSA's?
  Have they factored in the going rates which would be charged by tradesmen and everyone else involved in a major construction, but which of course the IBSA is receiving for free?

  It could be that they will be using commercial construction companies to build portions or all of this. For instance, I believe all the steel construction going on in Warwick is being done by outside contractors, and I saw on this month's JW broadcast that the new facility in South Africa is being built by outside contractors rather than volunteers "to save time".
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  4 New BOEs as of Tuesday 4/28

  by Atlantis in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  we thank our informant for these documents and hope he/she will remain under the radar safely!.

  click the green download button... 2015 april 17, boe (re: meeting medical needs in the foreign-language field).

  .. http://wwwb.fileflyer.com/view/gukk6aq.

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  You should confirm with each member of your group that they have a signed, witnessed and dated AD document, less than 5 years old. It is helpful to review the completeness and legibility of the document to ensure no mistakes have been made.

  For each member of your group, check that copies have been lodged with the witnesses of the AD document, the emergency contact, the publisher’s GP, and the congregation secretary.

  I too thought that the WTS was letting the "blood issue" slip into the shadows of history. These letters seem to indicate the complete opposite. At least now I can prepare in advance what I'll say when they ask for a copy of mine.