Posts by EmergedAsMe

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Very Shocking, Damned News: Watchtower Reports to UN Agency

by Scott77 in

dated august 26, 2009, from the watchtower through the european association of jehovahs christian witnesses, the organization shamelessly reports its contribution to the report of the u.n. high commissioner for human rights on the implementation of the new review mechanism of the human rights council, established by ga resolution 60/251 and by the human rights council in resolution 5/1 of 18 june 2007 for the 7th session 2010. please, see the full link to the report below.. http://lib.ohchr.org/hrbodies/upr/documents/session7/eg/eajcw_upr_egy_s07_2010_theeuropeanassociationofjehovahschristianwitnesses.pdf.

please, bring up new questions based on this report.

for a start, here is one question from my side.. 1) is the watchtower as a religious agency, constitutionally obliged to report to the un, the 'disgusting thing that cause desolation' and 'is under satan'?.

EmergedAsMe

Just adding my two cents - finding out that the WTS was a member of the UN (NGO business) was very powerful for me. I have recently escaped from the JWs and it kills me that I was baptized in 2002 and the WTS and UN were in bed together until 2001 ... but I never knew!! (Was a born in)

After learning more about the WTS scandals, cover ups, doctrine changes, false prophecies and everything else the UN thing started to fade into just another thing the WTS did. However - I do not think the WTS and it's involvement with the UN should be overlooked with trying to help JWs get out.

Haven't had a chance to read this attatched letter yet.

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Hit and Run Convention Invite!

by AuntBee in

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doorbell rings, nicely dressed young woman doesn't even look me in the eye, quickly says "we're passing these out in the neighborhood to invite you to an event at the tucson community center", and scampers off before i even knew what hit me!

she reminded me more of someone who was hired by a business to pass out flyers, rather than a deeply religious person that cares about me or my destiny.

wow, it was borderline kind of rude, i thought..

EmergedAsMe

Not that I know this young woman, but is it possible she really didn't want to be doing this all important "preaching work"?

I know that when I was on the way out (and hadn't even realized it) I hated field service so much. Especially pointless invites to our convention which was a very long way from where we lived!!

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What do you think about brothers with bowties?

by asilentone in

EmergedAsMe

I am not really a fan of bowties... but since I have left - I think good for them (the dub brothers that wore them)!

They managed to find a way to be a little different, in a very uniform world.

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Do You Know any JW's Who Saw Avatar?

by sammielee24 in

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just curious.

i know there was some issue amongst some religious orgs about their flock going to see this movie so i just wondered if anyone knows of a jw who did go and see it.. sammieswife.

EmergedAsMe

I saw it 3 times, two of those times with groups of JWs. Loved it.

However we had some sisters visiting from another area, and when invited to join us and some local JWs to see Avatar they went into major judgment mode. They pulled some faces and said something along the lines of "Oh, we know what thats about...". So we just dropped them back home and went and saw it (it was the second time for us, so we knew what it was about and thought it was funny that they were knocking something they actually hadn't seen). Then my parents who are from the part of the country that these two sisters are from told me that Avatar was big on the "no-no disapproved" movies. Apparently this judgment never made it to my part of the country in time, so elders, ms, pioneers etc all enjoyed it blissfully ignorant of the judgments happening elsewhere. (And I neglected to pass the judgment on...it was within Avatar being screened that I left for good, so quite recent. The judgment of something I saw no harm in, and a personal choice was yet another straw...)

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What difference does it make if we are born in?

by wanderlustguy in

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born in, what difference does it make?.

i was thinking about this one a lot over the last few weeks.

what difference does it make whether you were born into a cult or were brought in as a teen or adult?

EmergedAsMe

bk-marking

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Would You Believe This?

by snowbird in

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i've recently processed information on a leviticus, chronicle, jehoshaphat, and thessalonians?.

all males.. this here is the bible belt, i tell you!

syl.

EmergedAsMe

I knew a Shulam witness girl, named from the Shulamite girl...

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Apostate Signs At Conventions...Has Anybody Left Because Of That?

by mentallyfree31 in

just wondering how much good that does when ex-jws hold up signs at conventions.

do you know of anybody that saw something on a sign and did research and subsequently left the organization?.

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EmergedAsMe

Just a thought: If anyone did go the sign protest route, it would be a good idea to keep them very simple and easy to read at a glance. I always tried to read signs, but couldn't do so easily without feeling like it was obvious what I was trying to do. I was always curious about what drove people who had left to be so passionate about protesting. I was never sure if it was a case of "We lost our toy so we want you all to lose yours too" or "There is something seriously wrong with the WTS and we feel compelled to let people know". Now I know what drove people to brandish signs at assemblies.

I also think literature would make more of a splash - especially if in individual bathroom stalls (other JW can't see if you read it, or put it in a pocket).

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Are you an active Jw or an ex-jw?

by XPeterX in

active unbaptised publisher here.you?

(though i already know the answer for some people).

EmergedAsMe

Did this forum really start for active JW? I did wonder about it as it is just call jehovahs witness dot net.

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The Invention of Lying

by AllTimeJeff in

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i just watched this movie on video this weekend.

always meant to see it and just got around to it.

it was a brilliant movie, but not at all what i was expecting.. it's a story of a man who lives in a world where everyone says what is on their mind all the time, to the point of brutal honesty (no, i am not sleeping with you.").

EmergedAsMe

I found it was quite different to what I expected as well, it had a very powerful message. I saw the movie with an on the fence JW family member, both of us unaware of the message that was inside (ironically they picked it). It seemed that the movie made them more than a little bit uncomfortable, as it makes the notion of religious beliefs - particularly christian seem just a tad silly. The message is clear that people can manipulate things/situations/people quite easily, and the power of group think was apparent.

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Silly things I wondered as a kid

by exwhyzee in

if god is like a loving father why did he set up a way for adam and eve to possibly fail by putting the "magic tree" in the garden?

if my dad sabotaged his kids this way or felt the need to test our love him he'd be considered an abusive father.. when god put an angel with a spinning sword in front of the entrance to the garden why didn't a&e walk a few miles down from there and climb over the wall ?

was there a wall ?.

EmergedAsMe

I had the same thoughts about beginings and "obviously there is a creator because eveything has a begining..." so where on earth did God come from, and what was his begining, and who was his creator? I use to imagine God as a child of some other giant universe and we were just his school science project... I kept that idea to myself though.

How were the annointed choosen? The idea that they "just know" was completely unsatisfactory.

Why did there seem to be no real love in the "true organization"? Why did no one seem that happy? Why of all the religious groups did God choose the JWs... ? (Not the WTS explanations... but truly why would he pick just one group?)

Why did I have the misfortune of being born a JW and not get to have an objective look at what the WTS teaches without instantly falling into being n apostate (what I always thought was the unforgiveable sin)and going to die at A if I stray from "the truth"? In simple terms - why could I never have the chance to look at other points of view without my LIFE being at stake? It may not be the correct understanding, but for a long time I thought if you strayed by not believing certain doctrines etc and believed something else - that you could never come back to "Gods organization"so you could blow your whole favor with God forever by looking at anti WTS stuff (this was when I was quite young, I obviously got over it!!!)

Why did I have to have the heavy weight of delivering the news of the worlds imminent destruction, while feeling like no matter what I did (and I was a good kid) I wouldn't make it through anyway? Was something wrong with me that I could not reconcile a God of love with one that wants to destroy everyone at A, and had done some pretty bad stuff (I thought this before I even knew about all the raping etc... God never seemed that loving to me).

Bringing me to: Why did God seem to be like a bratty child? Give me attention, do things my way and I will be your friend, supposedly perfect but I need you to worship me and let me know all the time, your life is not your own but mine - how does that make life a free gift?

And all the "true" Bible stories etc always seemed far fetched.