Posts by Julie

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Whitewater=Enron???

by Julie in

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since we have so many right-leaning politically speaking posters, i was wondering what comments they might be willing to offer up on this column i caught this morning.. http://www.observer.com/pages/conason.asp.

i am sure most of those who are quick to criticize anything that even remotely relates to clinton are all whitewater experts by now.

i would enjoy reading what thoughts you may have on the parallels and even how enron makes whitewater look like a trip to the penny candy store.. hoping some conservative can help me feel less screwed by my republican administration,.

Julie

A big thank-you to all the contributions of additional information on this issue. To all you Republicans taking the high road attitude of thinking any wrong doing should be investigated, I agree. However the left is sorely lacking shit-stirrers like Rush and Liddy to get the public whipped into a frenzy. That is what it takes here in the good ol' US of A. We are so heavily sedated with apathy it takes something of monumental proportion to wake us up and get our heads out of our asses (i.e. 9/11).

I will admit to taking some pleasure in seeing old footage of that class act, Bill Cohen, talking about when Clinton bombed Afghanistan saying, we have taken this action to try to protect the people of America from these and future terrorist attacks. Yeah, everyone inthrall to aforementioned Pub hate-mongers were thumbing their noses "What threat?? This is America!!! They wouldn't dare! Clinton's just blowing it out his ass trying to distract us!!" Guess ol' Bill Cohen spoke the truth then but isn't believed until now. Better late than never, at least I haven't seen him gloating and saying "I told you so". Like I said, he is a class act.

Regards to all,
Julie, who doesn't think a democratic government should be a who's who list of corporate America

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Last Days

by disneycuty in

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do you believe that we are in the "last days?

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Julie

When I studied with JWs there was talk of "the last days". I told them I didn't think this was the end because there are too many resources left to exploit. (They probably figured they'd "straighten me out" after I joined) The atmosphere is still breathable (in most places--like where they don't have "voluntary" environmental-corp. rules), and there is still much earth left to ruin. It doesn't matter about the weapons of mass destruction yet. Maybe in time but I don't think anyone is in that big a hurry to end it all, not even that maniac Hussein.

Just my thoughts,
Julie, by the way, lol@Comf

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Jesus Christ, King of the Pedophiles

by messenger in

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due to the proliferation of newbies wishing to call us home to christ or whatever other movement they deem appropiate it might be good to review the following to balance the extreme perspecitves a bit... .

jesus christ, king of the pedophiles.

jesus christ (wld) .

Julie

Ah Rex,

You know I love it when you talk like that! You torture me so!

Hope all is well with you love--

Take care,
Julie

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Marry Christmas Jan-evolution goes down in flames

by clash_city_rockers in

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darwin on trial is the title of a book on evolution that has ruffled the feathers of the secular scientific community.

though a christian, author philip johnson critiques evolutionary theory from a secular standpoint as he examines the philosophical games many scientists play to protect their evolutionary ideology.

johnson, a law professor at the university of california at berkeley, attacks head-on the often-heard statement that evolution is both a fact and a theory, an evolutionary dogma that has been a major source of confusion for a long time.

Julie

:JanH also likes to twist the words and meanings of what people say around which is typical of an abuser and controller.

KSJordan, care to provide any examples of this baseless accusation? I'd be interested in seeing such.

Julie

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Sorry if I was rude

by kevin221 in

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sorry to everyone if i was rude in chat or in posting tonight, excepct for that poster "no censorship" who should be shot on sight.

my dad passed away today and i am oh so tired of people dying on me this year.

i don't say this to make an excuse, i just wanted you all to know.

Julie

Oh Friday, sour grapes or what? I read your thread you posted here and you blather on and on and ON about this whole bridegroom business and buckets of other stuff these poor folks suffered through years of! You liken that to a brief yet powerful message of My Dad Died??? Pathetic. No wonder no one here has any respect for you.

Kevin,

I am very sorry to hear about your dad. I have been there. My mailbox is always open though I can't imagine you'd just write me out of the blue. Wish I could hang out with you and talk with you, laugh about funny dad memories and cry about the sad ones, including the loss.

My sincere condolences to you,
Julie, who would like to remind Kevin that the only good thing about hitting bottom is there's only one way left to go...better days on the way

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Jesus Christ, King of the Pedophiles

by messenger in

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due to the proliferation of newbies wishing to call us home to christ or whatever other movement they deem appropiate it might be good to review the following to balance the extreme perspecitves a bit... .

jesus christ, king of the pedophiles.

jesus christ (wld) .

Julie

Wow Messenger!!

That's quite a viewpoint. You make some good points in your argument. Certainly food for thought and an FYI for all of you out there who run screaming from such a thought, homosexuality was common practice among priests, monks etc. in medieval times. You'd be surprised at the "Great Men" that are highly suspect too, William Rufus, Richard the Lionheart to name just two.

Penn, considering your unwillingness to answer thorny questions I wouldn't be throwing that word "integrity" around if I were you. "Who me???" you ask? Indeed yes. I am still waiting for your answer to the question: If God's people were out there commiting holy genocide and all that, they undoubtedly slaughtered many a pregnant woman. (The only time I saw in the bible women were considered worth sparing is if they were virgins) Would not God-ordered slaughter of pregnant women make God himself an accomplished abortionist? Do you remember that question Penn? You ignored it nicely in e-mail, wonder if you'll even attempt it here. Doubt it Mr. Integrity.

Waiting, While rectories have probably served their purpose (that which you correctly refer to) it's probably the Sacristy which has seen the most action. Don't even know if I spelled it right but as a former Cat-lick, I know that's the secret place behind the alter where they "get ready" (don vestments etc) for mass etc. Now *there* is the perfect place. No good Catholic would *ever* wandered back to such a "holy" place uninvited!

A Happy Winter Soltice to you all!

Julie

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Let me help you

by JWMAN in

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calling all lost sheep!

it is not too late.

i have been an observer of this site for some time now.

Julie

While I don't need any help understanding the printing corporation known as the WT I do need help understanding the "all loving" God that is in reality a homicidal maniac in the bible. If you can somehow reconcile those things you can help me "back to the fold of God". Otherwise nevermind.

Julie

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Whitewater=Enron???

by Julie in

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friends

since we have so many right-leaning politically speaking posters, i was wondering what comments they might be willing to offer up on this column i caught this morning.. http://www.observer.com/pages/conason.asp.

i am sure most of those who are quick to criticize anything that even remotely relates to clinton are all whitewater experts by now.

i would enjoy reading what thoughts you may have on the parallels and even how enron makes whitewater look like a trip to the penny candy store.. hoping some conservative can help me feel less screwed by my republican administration,.

Julie

I find it interesting too sf, that so much of our admin represents corporate America. So much for a goverment for the people, by the people etc.

Guess we'll have to soon revise that to read for the special interests, by the special interests, etc.

Thanks for the clip and the link, interesting stuff.

Julie

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Whitewater=Enron???

by Julie in

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friends

since we have so many right-leaning politically speaking posters, i was wondering what comments they might be willing to offer up on this column i caught this morning.. http://www.observer.com/pages/conason.asp.

i am sure most of those who are quick to criticize anything that even remotely relates to clinton are all whitewater experts by now.

i would enjoy reading what thoughts you may have on the parallels and even how enron makes whitewater look like a trip to the penny candy store.. hoping some conservative can help me feel less screwed by my republican administration,.

Julie

I think the main jist of my original post was missed. It was more to highlight the double-standard we are being subjected to, not to mention the complete apathy in the nation regarding these matters. Unless we all wake up and soon, we will all be very sorry. As good ol' Bob Dole once said "What Joe-six pack doesn't know won't hurt him" as he was re-writing the tax code (See Senator for Sale for reference on this and many more VERY interesting quotes).

Again, I thank all for your thoughtful replies, much to the surprise of many I am not a member of either party, agree with some conservative issues, more Democratic ones but it is the moderates I find myself in agreement with most (those of both parties). Just wishing we could all play fair. I know, I know, nothing's far in love, politics and war. Thanks for indulging my over-active (by American standards) sense of justice/injustice.

Regards to all,
Julie

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Whitewater=Enron???

by Julie in

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friends

since we have so many right-leaning politically speaking posters, i was wondering what comments they might be willing to offer up on this column i caught this morning.. http://www.observer.com/pages/conason.asp.

i am sure most of those who are quick to criticize anything that even remotely relates to clinton are all whitewater experts by now.

i would enjoy reading what thoughts you may have on the parallels and even how enron makes whitewater look like a trip to the penny candy store.. hoping some conservative can help me feel less screwed by my republican administration,.

Julie

Thank you all for your comments, and no Amazing, I am not looking to gloat. If I recall there were plenty of Democrats looking to distance themselves from Clinton too. I mean after all he did get a blow-job in the oval office and we spent what? $100 million to prove it? Well it's neither here nor there. (BTW, nothing compared to what went on in there during Nixon's years but I digress)

As to your claim about Republicans being willing to seperate on issues, I gotta tell you, I can't help but recall that footage of that Icon to Repulicans, Reagan, standing there saying re: Iran/Contra "Well, I didn't *think* I was guilty but the facts say otherwise so...." LOL That was such a classic. I can't believe everyone thought define "is" topped that. But then again we Americans have such short memories. Bet his handlers were DAMN glad that term was about over! Whew! Lord knows they earned their pay.

Ah well, we will never know what really happens because the Republicans will circle the wagons and the Democrats are not united enough to take out their own Contract On America to hammer away in the press all of these things this admin is doing that make Clinton's look like amatuers.

Oh, and for the record, I am not against business in any way. I am against business having too much power in Washington and getting too much of our hard-earned tax dollars. I guess that's just me though.....

Take care all and a happy winter solstice to you,
Julie